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Safari crashes

EgzEgz
edited March 2014 in General App Discussion

So Im on ios 7.1 ipad4 32gb. Loading palmsounds.net makes safari crash. (I know not really audiobus related, but it is really bad ios7 is still not on the stability level ios6 was)

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  • Yes Palmsounds crashes my Safari too. Bummer as it is one of my favorite music blogs!
    Air/7.1

  • Have you tried google chrome? It's available on ios.

  • edited March 2014

    Hi. Here iPad4 64 Gb iOS 7.1
    No problem browsing palmsounds.net
    Main page: Musikmess 2014: Bastl Instruments.
    Updated: crashed few seconds after if I do nothing (only main page), but no when browsing. Weird.

  • @paradiddle said:

    Have you tried google chrome? It's available on ios.

    No because I don't want to install another browser just to view a website (less memory to use for music) Safari should work ok it's purpose is to display websites, apple has to fix this.

  • Right now there's about 30 soundcloud clips on that site. I know a lot of people have had issues with that and safari.

    I think trying to load so much into safari's memory overloads it.

    More a problem with Soundclouds viewer design than Safari.

  • I have noticed the same with PalmSounds in recent weeks (and I'm 6.1.3). I'm not certain but I think that, until recently, PalmSounds used to create a new 'page' for each day. Nowadays, on any given day there can be at least two days worth of items to display. If that includes a lot of embedded photos, YTs and especially Soundclouds, Safari chokes and crashes before the whole page can load.

    Am I imagining a change in PalmSound's format?

  • Let's hope this is one of the factors for Apple to bump up the ram in the next gen of IPads/iPhones.

  • On the weekends Palmsounds usually gathers up a bunch of tracks made mostly with iOS devices. And all those soundcloud widgets and whatnot will in most cases crash the iPad, no matter what browser you use. Other then that, palmsounds usually works fine on iPad, altho it can still be a memory hog.

  • Another guaranteed Safari-crasher is the "Post your Soundcloud" thread, on this very forum!

    I used to look forward to new material in that thread but I've stopped looking now. Not just because I'm sick of Safari crashing before I can see properly what's there but because so many posts nowadays appear to have absolutely no iOS content and their posters have registered on the forum solely to spam their self-promotion :(

  • edited March 2014

    Nine inch nails website is a good crash test site http://www.nin.com

  • edited March 2014

    @Egz said:

    So Im on ios 7.1 ipad4 32gb. Loading palmsounds.net makes safari crash. (I know not really audiobus related, but it is really bad ios7 is still not on the stability level ios6 was)

    Palm sounds (the desktop site) was always crashing for me,no matter if it was ipad2,iPad4,Mini Retina and IOS 6 or 7

  • @ChrisG said:

    Nine inch nails website is a good crash test site http://www.nin.com

    Hmmmm. Every time it crashes. Head like a hole.....

  • How's safari on iOS 8.4 with embedded soundcloud etc. on my mini retina it's impossible to view practically anything with soundcloud files, running 8.1, may also change browser, any recommendations?

  • @Washboy said:
    Another guaranteed Safari-crasher is the "Post your Soundcloud" thread, on this very forum!

    I used to look forward to new material in that thread but I've stopped looking now. Not just because I'm sick of Safari crashing before I can see properly what's there but because so many posts nowadays appear to have absolutely no iOS content and their posters have registered on the forum solely to spam their self-promotion :(

    Yeah didn't I crash people in Safari posting a whole bunch of songs people had made in Diode? :-)

  • @ChrisG said:
    Nine inch nails website is a good crash test site http://www.nin.com

    Doesn't crash on my 64GB iPad Air 2 running iOS8.4 :D

  • Doesn't even crash my old iPad 2 running 8.4...

  • Thanks @Samu, I think you would probably suffer less do to the increase in memory on the Air 2, wonder if anyone with an Air 1 has tested 8.4 yet, it's almost perverse how soundcloud brings safari down on the premiere mobile music device. Last night it was soul destroying crash after crash, SOUNDCLOUD Ahhhh, why does it eat memory.

    @Diode108, funny, I was just over on your site!

  • edited July 2015

    @Samu said:
    Doesn't crash on my 64GB iPad Air 2 running iOS8.4 :D

    Perhaps they made the site just a few feet shorter since last year. :)


    Soundcloud widgets though eats memory. The old widgets they had a couple of years back weren't nearly as memory intensive as far as I can remember.

  • I know on that the desktop (from webdev friends) Safari is starting to be seen as the "new IE". I would think Apple would be pretty serious about maintaining a good iOS browser, though.

  • Think I may have to test out a few other browsers, just a pity, all the integration with iOS let down by it's reliability, for me iOS seems more of a chore every update, I really hope this doesn't continue.

  • I do have an old 1st Gen iPad Mini too and It will be really nice to see what kind of boost it will get once iOS9 is released. My Dad still uses my old iPad 2 (iOS8.4) for light activities without any issues.

    I'm already used to a 'bigger' iPad again and using an iPad Mini just hurts my eyes :(

  • @Diode108 said:
    I know on that the desktop (from webdev friends) Safari is starting to be seen as the "new IE". I would think Apple would be pretty serious about maintaining a good iOS browser, though.

    Apple was so serious (as in dollars and time) about pushing the web forward when the iPhone was launched. Safari was amazing. "HTML5 apps everywhere!", said Jobs. Then, they opened the app store and have been on a slow decline (in safari anyway) ever since.

  • @Samu, I've still got the original ipad, compared to my mini retina at browsing duty, it almost compares, only thing when Safari crashes on it you lose your tabbed page, the strange thing is when you browse a 'problem' web page with the mini, if you hold your finger and scroll, this seems to stop the - web page problem, reload routine - but as soon as you release your finger, bam, reload cycle takes place.

    @syrupcore, Don't know why, Apple always skimps on memory in their devices, even on the desktops, vast majority seem underpowered for a lot of pro duties.

  • Indeed but it's not just RAM in this case. Safari is falling behind in fairly meaningful ways as far as web technologies go whereas it was the browser pushing the envelope furthest just 5 years ago.

    Mind, Safari and Chrome both stem from the same open source codebase (Webkit). Chrome just takes it further these days. Unfortunately, every browser on iOS is really just Safari at it's core with other features built on top (vs extending the core browser rendering engine). So, on the desktop, Chrome and Safari both use Webkit at its core and both extend Webkit to differentiate, but on iOS, Safari builds from webkit and Chrome (et al) can only extend from Safari.

  • @syrupcore, This is one of the occasions when Apple 'controls everything' leaves you with very little options aside from probably which developer uses the least bloat, but still remains viable to use. You would think that Safari would be a top priority for Apple, it's got to be the most used app on iOS, who knows they might takeover a browser developer next, mmmm, I only hope!

  • @knewspeak They really don't need to buy anyone. Webkit is awesome (they wrote and open sourced it) and Safari was awesome. Both Chrome and now Opera use webkit as their bones. Safari could easily be the cat's meow again if they devoted the resources to it—hell, just keeping up with the new stuff being built into Webkit would be a win. It's not like iTunes or something which is just fundamentally a bloated piece of poop. :)

  • I can't say I know all the details. Back when I was doing web development, Apple was kicking ass with Safari, and we were all trying to figure out the earliest date we could stop supporting old IEs.

  • So Apple has the finest ingredients they just can't, no won't bake the cake, it still puzzles me why no government has challenged the monopoly that the AppStore is, is capitalism dead, replaced by corporatism?

  • Apple has a pretty compelling argument for only allowing one App Store and one core browser: security. I may not totally agree with it is a fairly defensible position.

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