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Can MOZAIC replicate MidiHUB Hardwareš§
@hypnopad @wim
Not wanting to hijack the Mozaic thread, but Iāve been interested in self generative sequencing for quite some time and landed on this interesting implementation of it with the MidiHuB hardware and was wondering if something like this fit in with what you were asking for in your thread...or is this something entirely different.
You can find the link to the Patch description here for MidiHuB on PatchStorage:
https://patchstorage.com/relax-2/
And hereās the video:
Does something like this already exist for Mozaic? Iām going to spend some time sifting thru the great Mozaic Patches today on PatchStorage but thought Iād try to cut to the front of the line with my question.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
-echo opera
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I'm waiting for my midihub to arrive, but some of this is possible with a combination of generators like Pagefall Trinity of Autony, Cality, and Ioniarics.
Working on a video of this.
Awesome. I know some of itās possible i just like the elegance of the description of what it was doing and thought about Mozaic.
Let us know when you post the video. Would love to see it. šš¼ā¢ļø
@echoopera Some of the MIDI Hub functionality is implemented in several existing Mozaic
scripts:
1) A single MIDI input gets split across multiple MIDI channels as targets. The lovely thing about AUM is that Mozaic being a MIDI FX app it can be cabled to multiple inputs and outputs without following strict MIDI cable and channel details. @_Ki has written a script to split incoming MIDI across multiple output channels.
2) Delay and Randomization (dropping notes effectively) is easy to implement and there are 2 Probability scripts I like to grab and then have "probability" in the names. One drops notes with probabilities mapped to scale notes and the other drops according to simple probabilities. There are also couple apps that add probability like @wim "The-Chordulator" which will turn single notes into chords and apply probability, strum and more options.
@wim is right now creating a sequencer that allows you to set up melodies and trigger then with input events and that might be modifiable to sample incoming melodies and get close to the design of this MIDI Hub functionality.
Using AUM you can also insert Riffer, Cality and more into the network of apps to act as a source of input but still insure the notes selected work well for Major, Minor, chromatic contexts.
Several people have described a specific functionality and some programs have been written to the needs of an individual if the problem and the product seem interesting to the developer. Since this is all volunteer work it's up to them if they also want that app or would like to hear that someone uses their work to make music and shares the results.
I think many Mozaic programmers would like to see what you might do with their effort
and could work with you to make somethings generally useful. The top programmer's are all busy with current projects but if you sell the idea someone will probably get the ball rolling implementing features for a great ambient generator script. There's probably several in the patchstorage catalog already... probably the Marble app(s) but I haven't tried them yet.
@echoopera Looks interesting but nothing like what Iām doing. For me itās about being completely off the grid and no sequences/ transports running. I have complete control of the phrasing of the input notes with my drumsticks. I can add all sorts of midi/audio delays downstream of that but Iām in control of when things happen- not a running sequencer.
midihub Looks pretty useful...but if you've got an ipad in the setup with and audio midi interface not sure it's much advantage....I'm definitely picking up one of those EC4's however
Yeah...I think the market is performing musicians who are mostly Hardware based. Cool nonetheless to see these kind of niche devices being made.
What I love about the MidiHUB is that I think a Mozaic developer would love to replicate some of the devices core functionality. Anyhoo...thought it was cool to share. Seems like good documentation is also available for it.
Mozaic, MidiFire...I think both of these can do what MidiHub does.
Cheers.
Yeah good to share this, definitely a great little device if you want to jam away from screens and operating systems
If I was trying to replicate it with what I already have I'd use Midifire app and host it with Mozaic/streambyter and other midi AUs on an iphone to get something potentially even more flexible.
What I'm looking forward to with midihub is that it will be much easier to write rules. Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to write scripts with Mozaic, but I'm glad that folks like @wim have put in so much effort to share their work. Much appreciated.
Mozaic and Midihub will be a fun combo.
Mozaic can do every thing the MidiHub can do. The drastic difference is the way of going about putting together patches. There's nothing like the MidiHub editor's graphic way of patching things together. Everything is done through programming.
So, I'd say the answer is a qualified "no" on this one.
One could put together a somewhat similar experience using MidiFire to wire together several single-purpose Mozaic scripts and/or Streambyter scripts, each representing a Generator or Modifier node, with MidiFire handling the routing.
It wouldn't be as simple or visual an experience as the MidiHub editor though.