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Tonestack should be Auv3 Host, not FX, change my mind...
I really think we'd benefit more if Tonestack woud be a host, not an effect.
I don't see the point of a zillion of instances for this one.
Still be able to connect via Audiobus, though.
That way we could make some pedalboards including any Auv.
Thoughts?
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@ttk bonkers
Well for one, having multiple track of guitar in a song. I like to record my guitar un effected.
Yeah, I think it would be cool if it had AUv3 plugin support. They could add it into the “utility” category so the good ole’ trusty ABY pedal wouldn’t be so lonely.
I feel you but I don't know enough as to why. I think I see your idea, is it that you don't need lots of instances of tone stack? Or are you trying to put other app effects in the tone stack slots? Someone with more knowledge will come in here.,..
+1. It already works as an IAA host.
Recording/Comping/Reamping is more important to me than using additional AUs within my guitar amp modeling app. But some will say, hey, you can do that now with IAA. But ah, IAA is depreciated. It makes more sense to me to have something as effects-complete as Tonestack to be an AU within my DAW, and put additional AUs into my host's chain later if needed. Now, if the app's main focus was solely for live use, then maybe I'd agree that might be useful to have the app host AUs. But then, it wouldn't be useful to me as a musician, because I don't play live much (at all).
If it was Auv3 we could use Audiobus/AUM for live playing and adding other plugins/instrument in the chains.
Agreed. It is more important to have the app be AUv3.
If it was a multi in/out AUv3 FX with Midi and AU parameter control, that would be awesome.
If you could route the signal in or out from any point in the TS path, you could patch any IAA or AU app into TS, and/or tap an output from anywhere.
That would be too incredible though, so I actually expect we will get a TS AU host instead, if anything.
MIDI Guitar 2 is a host for AUv3 apps.
MIDI Guitar 2 of course allows you to play guitar and generate MIDI for
AUv3 synths. Really an amazing app... so much better than the Roland Guitar synth
in my opinion.
But I think AUM is perfect to set up guitar rigs and have some MIDI control.
If Yonac updates any app I hope it's adding MIDI input for their beautiful "Steel Guitar"
product... MPE would be +2.
Ideally, I'd like the guitar rigs to be a standalone host that also provided AUv3 amp and FX plugins that can be used in any host, including the guitar rig.
MG2 is a great reference point. It's cool that I can host AUv3 apps in MG2 but I NEVER DO IT, because AUM.
Would love to have MG2 as a MIDI AUv3 in AUM, though!
I don't see a huge advantage in having Tonestack as an AUv3 host. In a signal chain, FX are generally pre or post amp. If the goal is to be able to use AUv3 FX with Tonestack in the signal chain, then it's perfectly possible to put them before or after Tonestack. If I want a different distortion plugin before the amp, I just put it before Tonestack. If I wan't a different reverb, I put it after.
Sure there are some flexibility issues. For instance, if I want Tonestack's compressor, followed by BST100, followed by a Tonestack amp, I can't do it. But I've got plenty of plugins that can come close enough to any of Tonestack's plugins to deal with that. I can't think of any setup where I would care that much about mixing and matching specifically Tonestack pre/post amp chains.
So that leaves what to do if I wanted to use only Tonestack FX pre and post, but just replace the amp and speakers. Yeh, that wouldn't work. But again, I feel like I could choose whether or not to give up the pre or post amp Tonestack FX.
That's my logical process, thinking of pure signal flow. Sure, having it an AUv3 host would be an advantage. And it would be FAR less work for the developer than trying to make Tonestack itself an AUv3. So, from that perspective it makes sense.
I'm kinda over Tonestack in general at this point. I still like it, but generally don't use it because I prefer to work with AUv3 apps only. So this is just an an academic question for me personally.
My thoughts are that this app hasn’t seen an update in over 3 years so I can’t see it getting AUv3 treatment in any shape or form. Nice thought experiment though.
It does seem the world is passing it by. It remains a great app though.
Just chiming in to say that MIDI Guitar 2 is one of the best iOS apps of all time. That is all.
Tonestack is great but in 2020 it needs AUv3 and an engine refresh. That is all.