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Drumjam update coming soon

Just noticed a post on FB saying Pete spent a week or so in the studio recording new sounds/loops for Drumjam. According to him, with all the different layered velocity samples the app current has around 15,000 different sounds - with another 10,000 coming in the update. Been a while since any update - looks like the wait will be worth it

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  • I think I need to dig deeper into Drumjam. It fell of my radar and I'm frustrated with
    most of usual drum track products. It's great to see additional investment in the product.

  • Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

  • Yes, in addition to any added functionality, AUv3 would be most welcome!

  • @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

  • @syrupcore said:
    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

    +1

  • edited July 2020

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    I can guarantee you that the developer behind Thumbjam, the first instrument to take full advantage of what the iPhone could do with the touchscreen, accelerometer, etc isn’t out of touch. If anything it’s the other way around. No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

  • @mjcouche said:

    @syrupcore said:
    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

    +1

    +1

  • DrumJam is always on my front page of apps. It has provided me with some all time great drum parts for songs of mine. (Don’t even get me started on ThumbJam) I don’t ever think about the method of connectivity it uses. But sure, AU would be great, I am trying to use AU stuff only. DrumJam is my exception because it’s so incredible.

  • @ChrisG said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    I can guarantee you that the developer behind Thumbjam, the first instrument to take full advantage of what the iPhone could do with the touchscreen, accelerometer, etc isn’t out of touch. If anything it’s the other way around. No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

    Yup.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @ChrisG said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    I can guarantee you that the developer behind Thumbjam, the first instrument to take full advantage of what the iPhone could do with the touchscreen, accelerometer, etc isn’t out of touch. If anything it’s the other way around. No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

    Yup.

    double YUP

  • @RubenDari said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @ChrisG said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    I can guarantee you that the developer behind Thumbjam, the first instrument to take full advantage of what the iPhone could do with the touchscreen, accelerometer, etc isn’t out of touch. If anything it’s the other way around. No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

    Yup.

    double YUP

    Triple Yup. However, I don’t see TE Tuner under Sonosaurus. Was thinking about dropping some monnies.

  • Hey folks! Pete and I are working on the new instrument and loop packs for DrumJam, as Pete let on. It has been too long since any kind of DrumJam update, we figured it was a good time for some content. There will probably also be a little software update as well, mostly compatibility fixes, maybe a surprise feature. No AU at this time... as some of you know moving older iOS software codebases to AUv3 is more work than it should be. However, we have our eyes on a DrumJam follow-up app that remedies some of the shortcomings of DJ, and that will be AU, whenever it comes to be.

    As for TonalEnergy Tuner & Met, we spun that off into its own company, so it is listed under TonalEnergy, Inc now. Check it out if you haven't!

  • Yes, I saw that. Aaaaand now I see it was co-developed by Sonosaurus. Danke!

  • @sonosaurus said:
    Hey folks! Pete and I are working on the new instrument and loop packs for DrumJam, as Pete let on. It has been too long since any kind of DrumJam update, we figured it was a good time for some content. There will probably also be a little software update as well, mostly compatibility fixes, maybe a surprise feature. No AU at this time... as some of you know moving older iOS software codebases to AUv3 is more work than it should be. However, we have our eyes on a DrumJam follow-up app that remedies some of the shortcomings of DJ, and that will be AU, whenever it comes to be.

    As for TonalEnergy Tuner & Met, we spun that off into its own company, so it is listed under TonalEnergy, Inc now. Check it out if you haven't!

    There are many of us who await your every move but not in like a totally weird or creepy way my dude etc.

  • edited July 2020

    @syrupcore said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

    Why? It's as much a fact as saying the opposite. You stated it was not a fact as if your statement were a fact. That's not a factual statement either.

    And if you add one word "........of touch with what MANY iPad users want" I think it is pretty close to factual. Surely it would be reasonable to assume based on this forum that there are more than a few users keen on auv3. Anyway, certainly not worth freaking out about and jumping on the defensive train to Myhonourhasbeenchallengedville. At worst the statement has some validity to it. And from a personal point of view, any developer not adding auv3 is out of touch with what this iPad user wants.

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @sonosaurus said:
    Hey folks! Pete and I are working on the new instrument and loop packs for DrumJam, as Pete let on. It has been too long since any kind of DrumJam update, we figured it was a good time for some content. There will probably also be a little software update as well, mostly compatibility fixes, maybe a surprise feature. No AU at this time... as some of you know moving older iOS software codebases to AUv3 is more work than it should be. However, we have our eyes on a DrumJam follow-up app that remedies some of the shortcomings of DJ, and that will be AU, whenever it comes to be.

    As for TonalEnergy Tuner & Met, we spun that off into its own company, so it is listed under TonalEnergy, Inc now. Check it out if you haven't!

    There are many of us who await your every move but not in like a totally weird or creepy way my dude etc.

    +1 @sonosaurus Anything you make.. I will buy.. B)

  • wimwim
    edited July 2020

    @Ailerom said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

    Why? It's as much a fact as saying the opposite. You stated it was not a fact as if your statement were a fact. That's not a factual statement either.

    And if you add one word "........of touch with what MANY iPad users want" I think it is pretty close to factual. Surely it would be reasonable to assume based on this forum that there are more than a few users keen on auv3. Anyway, certainly not worth freaking out about and jumping on the defensive train to Myhonourhasbeenchallengedville. At worst the statement has some validity to it. And from a personal point of view, any developer not adding auv3 is out of touch with what this iPad user wants.

    Not to add fuel to the fire or to criticize you in any way - just to add perspective. Developers can be perfectly in touch with users wants, but not have the resources to do what users would like them to. Retrofitting an app for AUv3 can simply be impractical, no matter how much a developer would love to do it. Doing the next best thing by enhancing an existing app is still a very generous act considering there are no upgrade charges (unless they make the new sounds an IAP).

    It doesn’t necessarily follow that because someone doesn’t do something it’s because they don’t understand the market or care about it. That was the point being made, I believe.

  • TonalEnergy is another app I hope will go AUv3. There aren't any good AUv3 tuners. It would be really neat if AUv3 can animate their icons. Then I could see the green smiley without opening the app.

  • edited July 2020

    @ChrisG said:
    No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

    @sonosaurus said:
    However, we have our eyes on a DrumJam follow-up app that remedies some of the shortcomings of DJ, and that will be AU, whenever it comes to be.
    As for TonalEnergy Tuner & Met, we spun that off into its own company, so it is listed under TonalEnergy, Inc now. Check it out if you haven't!

    This connects to my thinking sparked by a bug report (different app) I made the other day ... in order for app developers to keep providing updates (bugfixes or features) the business model of "sell the app once" doesn't work. A subscription model makes more sense, (perhaps that can be implemented by selling feature updates as IAPs ? I dunno) or, as sonosaurus has done, decided to make a follow-up app that generates more income.

  • edited July 2020

    I think at this point most of us would be delighted to see Thumbjam and Drumjam versions 2, released as entirely new apps with AUV3. Eight to ten years later it's ridiculous to still be expecting free updates to existing apps.

  • @wim said:

    @Ailerom said:

    @syrupcore said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    This was stated as if it were a fact. It's not.

    Why? It's as much a fact as saying the opposite. You stated it was not a fact as if your statement were a fact. That's not a factual statement either.

    And if you add one word "........of touch with what MANY iPad users want" I think it is pretty close to factual. Surely it would be reasonable to assume based on this forum that there are more than a few users keen on auv3. Anyway, certainly not worth freaking out about and jumping on the defensive train to Myhonourhasbeenchallengedville. At worst the statement has some validity to it. And from a personal point of view, any developer not adding auv3 is out of touch with what this iPad user wants.

    Not to add fuel to the fire or to criticize you in any way - just to add perspective. Developers can be perfectly in touch with users wants, but not have the resources to do what users would like them to. Retrofitting an app for AUv3 can simply be impractical, no matter how much a developer would love to do it. Doing the next best thing by enhancing an existing app is still a very generous act considering there are no upgrade charges (unless they make the new sounds an IAP).

    It doesn’t necessarily follow that because someone doesn’t do something it’s because they don’t understand the market or care about it. That was the point being made, I believe.

    Not sure if that was the point being made but I get what you are saying and it's a valid point. To be honest I have no real idea what is involved in adding auv3 functionality. Thanks for the alternate perspective. ;)

  • @richardyot said:
    I think at this point most of us would be delighted to see Thumbjam and Drumjam versions 2, released as entirely new apps with AUV3. Eight to ten years later it's ridiculous to still be expecting free updates to existing apps.

    Especially in the case of @sonosaurus apps.

  • Don’t forget YaleD, sonosaurus’s reverse delay AUv3, one of my favourite apps. When I stick it on the end of my guitar chain I always feel I’m getting a cheeky bonus treat, like buying a doughnut when out to get bread.

    I only discovered ThumbJam and DrumJam within the last year and they completely changed my workflow. I was kicking myself I hadn’t come to them earlier, AUv3 or not. There is no compulsion for developers to necessarily be in touch with what users perceive they need. I never needed an iPhone or an iPad before they were invented.

  • edited July 2020

    @ChrisG said:

    @ion677 said:
    Any music app developer not adding AUv3 functionality is really out of touch with what iPad users want.

    I can guarantee you that the developer behind Thumbjam, the first instrument to take full advantage of what the iPhone could do with the touchscreen, accelerometer, etc isn’t out of touch. If anything it’s the other way around. No developer today actually look at the possibilities the iPad and iPhones offers, gone are the days when apps like Thumbjam, Drumjam, TC-11, Figure, the keyboard in Thor, in Nave, and so on were made. Slap a one or two octave, dead, keyboard on top and it’s done. But then again, there needs to be some money in it all. The Thumbjam dev, have his TE Tuner on the AppStore and it’s the only app that brings in cash today.

    Take my money 🤑🤑🤑 ThumbJam or DrumJam auv3 versions

  • @sonosaurus said:
    Hey folks! Pete and I are working on the new instrument and loop packs for DrumJam, as Pete let on. It has been too long since any kind of DrumJam update, we figured it was a good time for some content. There will probably also be a little software update as well, mostly compatibility fixes, maybe a surprise feature. No AU at this time... as some of you know moving older iOS software codebases to AUv3 is more work than it should be. However, we have our eyes on a DrumJam follow-up app that remedies some of the shortcomings of DJ, and that will be AU, whenever it comes to be.

    As for TonalEnergy Tuner & Met, we spun that off into its own company, so it is listed under TonalEnergy, Inc now. Check it out if you haven't!

    Great news for those loved apps. Anticipating Auv3 versions !

  • edited July 2020

    @sonosaurus when making the new drumapp please add a ”fill” functionality like the lumbeat apps.

  • @richardyot said:
    I think at this point most of us would be delighted to see Thumbjam and Drumjam versions 2, released as entirely new apps with AUV3. Eight to ten years later it's ridiculous to still be expecting free updates to existing apps.

    Absolutely ! +1000
    👍

  • This is great news...I love DrumJam

  • Looking forward to it. I already own most of the existing Iaps.

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