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Iconnectivity Iconnect Audio 4+ Help requested

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  • I also have a Focusrite 18i20 so my basic setup in Logic when doing iPad/ AUM projects is Audio4c is the input device (18 in from iPAD) and 18i20 is output device (2 channels to monitors)

  • Yeah, no problem recording all channels at once, I guess processor speed might make a difference but I've always used it with a fast computer or laptop so I don't know how much it affects the performance.
    I use Ableton Link to sync to my AUM session and it's a great workflow.

  • @NimboStratus I'd forgotten about aggregated audio devices on the Mac. That's something I've not tried yet as I've not actually had a Mac for long (I bought an old one cheaply to use with Traktor but it ended up being slightly more powerful than my main Windows laptop...)

    @Carnbot excellent. That's how I envisaged it working. I've done that before to record one track at a time through the iPad output and into the MOTU so it's a workflow that I already really like.

  • I’m not using aggregated device. I’m using them separately when I do iPad stuff, ie two discrete devices

  • Ah, I see. With you using Logic I assumed you were using them both with a Mac as if they were a single unit

  • edited December 2021

    Thank you @Carnbot, @NimboStratus, and @Processaurus for the insights and info! So as I understand it 20 mono channels can be user-allocated to shuttle about between the devices. But the analog input channels count towards that total count? So in Carnbot's setup there are 14 (ipad to desktop) + 2 (desktop to ipad) + 4 (analog inputs to iPad) = 20?
    And if that is the case, then if I want a generic setup that makes all analog inputs available to either usb device that will leave me 12 channels for allocating between usb1 & 2?

    Really wish we could save presets to disk, but "File" menu is greyed out in iConfig. Or can we and I just haven't unlocked that power yet? :) It's tough to wrap my head around this software! Anyway would love to have a preset for a setup that uses analog inputs, and maybe another that doesn't use inputs but that maxes out the outputs from iPad to desktop.

    @Carnbot said:
    Here's mine currently if it helps, I have 14 channels going from ipad to Ableton, also the desktop audio and the analog ports coming into the ipad.
    Best to rename the ports as it's less confusing.


  • edited December 2021

    [deleted post about my midi problems. FIXED]

    Still hoping for answers on previous post though. Thanks!

  • edited December 2021

    The analog inputs and outputs count only as sources. it's basically 20 total for both inputs and outputs per device. I've had mine setup to have my iPad have 2 inputs from 2 of the analog inputs and 18 channels as output from my iPad to my desktop. with my desktop having 18 inputs to receive and 2 channels to send out from my desktop to speakers. i also duplicate those same 2 channels to my headphones. so even though I'm using 4 analog outputs it's technically just 2 channels duplicated. basic gist is 20 total channels. how you split them between inputs and output is entirely upto you.

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:
    The analog inputs and outputs count only as sources. it's basically 20 total for both inputs and outputs per device. I've had mine setup to have my iPad have 2 inputs from 2 of the analog inputs and 18 channels as output from my iPad to my desktop. with my desktop having 18 inputs to receive and 2 channels to send out from my desktop to speakers. i also duplicate those same 2 channels to my headphones. so even though I'm using 4 analog outputs it's technically just 2 channels duplicated. basic gist is 20 total channels. how you split them between inputs and output is entirely upto you.

    @gonekrazy3000 thank you!

  • So how is your actual workflow? I try to figure out what can be a good workflow that integrates iPad and laptop. Is the iPad just a sound module and all the Midi coming from the laptop? Then you are limited to 16 usable channels because of Midi channels. Many synths and effects have stereo output, so you either make them mono or use two iCA channels per instrument. Or are you recording iPad sound sources straight to audio on the laptop and then arrange them further as audio clips? Are you using the clip launching on the laptop (Ableton session, Logic live loops)?

  • edited December 2021

    @krassmann Thanks for the reply. I'm not 100% sure what my use case would be as I am a hobbyist fumbling forward and haven't quite settled on a methodology. In general, I wanted to always have the interface hooked up to both my iMac and iPad, so that I could have my midi controllers and headphones in a central shared location. That way if I only wanted to use my computer, or only use my iPad I would be largely good to go.

    To date my sound experiments on iMac and iPad have been mostly separate. I do my sequencing and arranging and actual production of "finished" (ha!) tracks in Logic Pro X, and use the iPad and AUM more as a sonic playground.... often using file players and several loopers (Gauss and otherwise) and fx chains to make ambient/noise jams on the iPad. In the last year my most productive efforts have been when I record the channels of such jams in AUM and then airdrop to my iMac and import to Logic for editing, layering etc. I was thinking that with the AUDIO4c that maybe I could send a couple stereo channels from Logic to the iPad to potentially feed those loopers or use the iPad as outboard fx. Also was thinking that rather than record in AUM I could just stream a bunch of channels back to Logic. Lastly... might also run several synths on iPad and control with midi from the desktop. I do have a couple outboard synths that will generally be connected to the analog inputs but they only need to be accessed by my desktop.

    Sooooooooo I think my most common use case will be
    Desktop out: 3 stereo pairs (first for DAW, youtube, audacity, etc.... other pairs to send to iPad)
    Desktop input: 2 pairs analog inputs & 5 stereo pairs from iPad

    I know the AUDIO4c can only store one configuration, but can we save others as preset files on our computers? The File option is greyed out in my iConfig, which is a shame because I very much want to have several setups available.

    As for midi.... that's another thing I need to wrap my head around!

    My general case audio config (I think!). Look ok?

  • @stown thanks for the insights into your setup and ideas. ATM I’m iPad only for my music making but I’m a bit loosing my patience with the shortcomings of the iOS DAWs and thinking about if the combination with a laptop could help. The combo sounds also quite complicated. I have an iCA 2+. My laptop is a company device and theoretically I shouldn’t use it for private software but anyway I installed Ableton Live lite on it to make some experiments with such a setup. My config actually looks very similar but now I’m looking for ideas for a good workflow.

  • @krassmann Sorry I don't have any really good workflow yet! And only much about with Logic for the moment. :) I do love the possibilities these devices offer and can't wait to actually get rolling with mine.

    It sounded like @Carnbot and @Svetlovska were both using their iConnectivity devices to pair iPads with Live.... maybe they can weigh in on workflow?

  • i basically gave up on pure IOS due to the available daws just being too limited for me. i use it just to generate midi or audio and stream it into Ableton. on windows presets do indeed work @stown. not sure why its not working on mac for you. i don't own a mac so i cant really test it for you.

  • @stown on my Mac I can store the iConnectivity config.

  • edited December 2021

    @krassmann and @gonekrazy3000 so you can write out to disk iConfig files? Do you have to be on any certain screen or have anything selected? I assumed it would just save the current state as some sort of file, but totally greyed out for me. 🤔

  • edited December 2021

    Ah man... :( That's a no go for me. So frustrating. Downloaded the software on Sunday so maybe this is a new thing? :'(
    Have asked on their forums as well but no response yet.

    this is killing me because I really want to start changing names and rewiring midi but really need to save some "snapshots" of my progress

    UPDATE: submitted a problem ticket... hopefully that will get a response

  • Maybe file permissions ? They sometimes get messed, there‘s an item in Disk Utility (under quick aid or whatever it‘s called)

  • @stown . I notice that your device is a 4c, while @krassmann has the older 2+. Could it be related to that, since the iConfig software hasn't been updated for a while? Maybe it's looking for a folder with 4c in the name, which might never have been created.

  • I just realised that too. Mine is a 4+. Wonder if the 4c lacks this ability.

  • Switched my session around but seems like cpu on both is kind of the same. So will test to see what uses more cpu. Effects on a main/record session and tracks or less effects on power poly/mpe synths on another ipad. At the mo could look into gaining an extra stereo channel. Travis said there might be an extra channel. It goes. 1/2 out to 5/6 in. 3/4 out to 7/8 in. 5/6 out to 9/10 in. It just means I air drop a stem ( but ocd is annoying ) and not entirely sure why I switched ipads around and obviously then what uses more cpu, like I said.

  • edited December 2021

    I know why. If the line inputs only work on the first ipad that can also be used to send usb outputs to another. Then thats obviously why but if the line inputs can work on any. Then I must be going mad. Gaining another channel might be cool. I got a synth ipad with 2x mononoke. An id700 and x2 moog z. Seems like dsp is less with x2 moog z. Its like my mpe corner ( with controller ) thats about the same cool as my scratch deck corner. Which is now. Dvs via phone but mapped to a nanokey. Then ipad is used for x/y effects. All connected into the modular daw system without having to move or switch cables.

  • Yeah I'm worried about the 4c possibly not having that ability. The manual for the 4c only discusses Auracle-for-x-series as the editor of audio/midi settings... whereas the 4+ only talks about iConfig. Unfortunately Auracle doesn't allow the cool allocation of the audio streams like iConfig (at least not that I could find in the manual), so of course I'm going to use iConfig.

    I'm going to hold off on fixing permisssions as that (can take minutes to hours according to the pop-up). I did try changing "sharing&permissions" via "get info" but that seemed to have no effect when I switched all to read&write (so I restored to existing settings).

    @uncledave Could you maybe tell me the file path to one of your presets and maybe I could try creating that folder structure to see if it somehow improves things?

    Have a problem ticket in, but got back mail saying their main support person for the product is out for two weeks on vacation. :P (others will try to help in the meantime, just possibly less successfully)

    Thanks everyone!

  • edited December 2021

    here's the file path with 2 default files inside (I never added presets to the iCA4+)
    /Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/iConnectivity/iConnectivity iConfig/presets/Current.ica4
    /Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/iConnectivity/iConnectivity iConfig/presets/Current.ica4.aux

    the 1st one just lists ports and the iPad type, the 2nd (aux) one has more content (mixed ascii and binary):

    iCM�ð�s~���������iConnectAUDIO4+Z÷ð�s~���������iConnectivityw÷ð�s~��������
    �icaudio-04r÷ð�s~��������� 000009A4D÷ð�s~���������2.0.2t÷ð�s~���������1.0V÷ð�s~���������iConnectAudio4+K÷ð�s~��������!����

    just the beginning, with type, firmware, revision, the rest is about ports etc

  • @Telefunky Thanks! I tried creating the directories but that didn't help restore the file menu. Drats!

    Got an initial reply from iConnectivity "The iConfig does not officially support the Audio4c. As you have found it works almost enough with iConfig."

    "it works almost enough" :#

  • It may need the 2 files in place to initialize, but if you just add 2 empty text files there's the risk it will mess or wipe settings. :#
    The directories may require certain privileges... it's Unix after all. :|
    Can you save current settings ?

  • Just checked on my system... if the path doesn't exist, it creates a new one into which a file can be saved.
    No dimmed menu, enabling must be checked elsewhere in the panel software or preferences.
    (the software is older than your unit)

  • @Telefunky I can save current settings to the device, but that's it. It's something though. :) I did try creating two blank files with those names but didn't seem to do the trick. I am definitely not unix savvy so may just stop here. :#

    Do you know if Auracle-for-x can do the same kind of audio routing gymnastics as iConfig? I was under the impression from stuff I read here that the answer is "no", and actually nothing in the AUDIO4c manual that I read indicated how to do the cool customizations of iConfig.
    ...

    Ah-ha! Just got an answer from support. Nice they were responsive, but info a bit disheartening. I guess I will stick with iConfig and just get by without presets for now.

    In response to me saying "Most often I would like to have 5-8 stereo pairs from my iPad (host device 2) routed to my logic on my iMac. Can Auracle do that?" and asking about the manual and Auracle vs iConfig:

    "Auracle For X Series cannot. It can route up to 3 stereo pairs from one USB device jack to another (as in from your iPad to your iMac)"
    " It's definitely not in the manual...I'm the poor guy that wrote it (haha), but they are not mistaken. Auracle For X is capable of the above mentioned capacity of sending audio between devices and mixing those signals, but does not have the one-to-one capability of the matrix mixer in iConfig."

  • That all seems to be a bit strange. So the hardware can do this many stereo channels. Then why the software that is bundled with the 4c doesn’t support it? But I think you can live without saving presets if your setup is rather static. I’m using the same configuration for a long time. Anyway, I don’t really understand why iConfig can fully configure your device but just not save that to disk. I mean it’s just about storing theses values on disk.

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