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Bluetooth earbuds?
I have 3 apple devices which all have different audio connectors so I continuously have piles of different earbuds laying around. Thinking of getting earbuds to use for everything and wondering if anyone is using them for their music production and if they are a viable solution? Also, what would be ideal would be to be able to use bluetooth earbuds and plug my guitar into my iPad Pro using the USB-C port so I can practice without driving my roommate crazy.
Would love to get feedback on this and if you have a set you like, your recommendations for brand.
Was thinking of this set:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085VQFZ91/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
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Bluetooth and production on ipad is not a good idea, the latency is still terrible
Would really like to be proven wrong, as also would love to be wireless
I seem to remember @jwmmakerofmusic uses Bluetooth for some things.
I would advise against using for guitar. Even if the apps you are using allow for routing of Bluetooth audio (as not all apps do), the latency combined with your physical plucking / strumming will be too noticeable.
This is for example one of the things Jamstik advises against, and they are Bluetooth experts. BLE MIDI is adequate for keyboard and guitar, but Bluetooth or even WiFi headphones won't hack it.
I agree...my Korg Nanokey studio kicks ass over bluetooth but it has to be wired headphones...
Just for headphones mate.
The way I produce music doesn't require live input other than vocals (which I don't use monitoring for). For live input and monitoring live performance, Bluetooth simply doesn't work.
Bluetooth audio has inherent latency because generally the audio stream needs to be run through a (usually lossy) codec on the way to the headphones. The less lossy the codec the more processor intensive it is which entails a large enough buffer to get the encoding done. The result is unavoidable latency.
Note that this latency is particular to Bluetooth audio which is a totally different thing from things like MIDI data streams which stream without compression.
Latency: unworkable for any kind of live playing.
Quality: generally, all audio will be compressed. Some (rare) codex use "lossless" compression. But it's pretty safe to assume that there will be compression, which means sound loss and alteration to some degree. So, personally, I wouldn't even trust Bluetooth audio for mixing. ymmv
Listening: yeh, OK.
I have the AirPod pros and love them. The latency is really near 0, even when using drum pad in various apps.
Now I got them from points accumulated on a credit card. $250 is a lot for ear buds. Maybe too much. But I do use them everyday , all day.
AirPods pros - 144 ms as reported here: https://9to5mac.com/2019/12/22/airpods-latency-test/ and in many other links (which all reference the same test ... so not conclusive IMO).
I believe you if you say they're near zero for you. But seems very odd.
Just tried out my AirPod Pros with a couple of drum apps, and for me the latency was a definitely a problem. YMMV
super helpful! Thanks everyone and glad I asked!
Latency could be app specific too.
Latency is shocking for anything but listening... and they're bloody tiny ... how tidy are you? ... ever lose your sunglasses? Plectrums are much harder to lose. Uninsurable.
I'd also want to do some research on the impact of earbuds on hearing ... particularly the sort of transients you get with thrash metal and the like ... flattens your little ear hairs I suspect... Rock and Roll's revenge. Just how annoying is your guitar playing? Might get away with smooth jazz though provided you keep it down and chilled.
Proper decent roomy studio headphones - infinitely preferable.
No. Added latency due to Bluetooth audio is the same for every app. The app has no control over it other than whether to allow it or not.