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using Notion to write, but how the heck do I use that midi file to playback my other synth and sampl

I wish Notion would play midi out to other apps, but since it doesn’t. is there some sort of app that you can just load the midi file in and have it play other instrument apps?

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  • I'm working in this area right now. You can suck the midi into a lot of DAW's like Cubasis and assign AUv3 instrumentation. What DAW's do you favor? That will define the workflow since they use so many approaches to get to the instruments. I favor AUM for example for that's bet solved by loading the MIDI into BS-16i and using the MIDI channels in AUM to make the match-ups but there are several MIDI Players available and some AUv3 MIDI options like Atom. But a MIDI file might be one instrument or an arrangement with 5-10 tracks so that factors into the process. You may have to split the MIDI tracks into some distinct files for example with Atom... not sure. Anyway.

    I'm using Notion to import MIDI and export MusicXML into StaffPad. StaffPad has an orchestra inside it so I can export an audio mixdown or audio stems of tech instrument back into my DAW. Orchestras don't have the modern instruments so I need the DAW to help. There is a drummer sample library but so far very few modern instruments are inside StaffPad so workflows involving 2-3 environments are still needed.

  • yep. Xequence.

    if you want a self-contained app so that you don't have to hook up other apps for playback, maybe consider bs-16i.

  • Xequence would be great if the MIDI needs any additional editing.

  • @McD said:
    I'm working in this area right now. You can suck the midi into a lot of DAW's like Cubasis and assign AUv3 instrumentation. What DAW's do you favor? That will define the workflow since they use so many approaches to get to the instruments. I favor AUM for example for that's bet solved by loading the MIDI into BS-16i and using the MIDI channels in AUM to make the match-ups but there are several MIDI Players available and some AUv3 MIDI options like Atom. But a MIDI file might be one instrument or an arrangement with 5-10 tracks so that factors into the process. You may have to split the MIDI tracks into some distinct files for example with Atom... not sure. Anyway.

    I'm using Notion to import MIDI and export MusicXML into StaffPad. StaffPad has an orchestra inside it so I can export an audio mixdown or audio stems of tech instrument back into my DAW. Orchestras don't have the modern instruments so I need the DAW to help. There is a drummer sample library but so far very few modern instruments are inside StaffPad so workflows involving 2-3 environments are still needed.

    Aum is my go to Ios playground. I have Cubasis, and have imported into there, but there are still Audio bugs when using with bluetooth headphones, so that doesn’t really work on the go.also the workflow is very slow. yes The midi file is a multiple instrument midi file.
    Really what i would like is a midi player to sit in an. Au slot and be able to just drop it in there and loop the midi file and have it play any instrument i want in Aum. i’m hoping Atom has that ability soon

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    Xequence is a separate app but can do everything you need. That's still my recommendation.

    If you really want to be only in AUM with an AU player then Photon AU is a possibility. You would export to Photon AU. It would open the standalone, but only to import the file. Once you've done that the file will be available to play back in the AU. Just tap file, then pick the file you imported, click load, then click assign to load it to one of the six pads, the tap the pad to start playback.

    Sounds harder than it actually is. Works.

  • @wim said:
    Xequence is a separate app but can do everything you need.

    If you really want to be only in AUM then Photon AU is a possibility. You would export to Photon AU. It would open the standalone, but only to import the file. Once you've done that the file will be available to play back in the AU. Just tap file, then pick the file you imported, click load, then click assign to load it to one of the six pads, the tap the pad to start playback.

    Sounds harder than it actually is. Works.

    interesting. is that ipad only?

  • @eross said:
    Really what i would like is a midi player to sit in an. Au slot and be able to just drop it in there and loop the midi file and have it play any instrument i want in Aum. i’m hoping Atom has that ability soon.

    Me too. I tried Musk MIDI Player which supports IAA so you can load it into AUM but you know about the screen swapping on an IAA app so you might not care. Still it's $2 and is worth a look. The start/stop
    issues then become a potential head ache but with everything in AUM you might get fast app loads while you wait for Atom to add new features.

  • @eross said:

    @wim said:
    Xequence is a separate app but can do everything you need.

    If you really want to be only in AUM then Photon AU is a possibility. You would export to Photon AU. It would open the standalone, but only to import the file. Once you've done that the file will be available to play back in the AU. Just tap file, then pick the file you imported, click load, then click assign to load it to one of the six pads, the tap the pad to start playback.

    Sounds harder than it actually is. Works.

    interesting. is that ipad only?

    Photon AU is iPad only. Xequence 2 is universal.

  • @McD said:

    @eross said:
    Really what i would like is a midi player to sit in an. Au slot and be able to just drop it in there and loop the midi file and have it play any instrument i want in Aum. i’m hoping Atom has that ability soon.

    Me too. I tried Musk MIDI Player which supports IAA so you can load it into AUM but you know about the screen swapping on an IAA app so you might not care. Still it's $2 and is worth a look. The start/stop
    issues then become a potential head ache but with everything in AUM you might get fast app loads while you wait for Atom to add new features.

    will it load multi instrumentor track midi files? or only single midi files?

  • @eross said:

    @McD said:

    @eross said:
    Really what i would like is a midi player to sit in an. Au slot and be able to just drop it in there and loop the midi file and have it play any instrument i want in Aum. i’m hoping Atom has that ability soon.

    Me too. I tried Musk MIDI Player which supports IAA so you can load it into AUM but you know about the screen swapping on an IAA app so you might not care. Still it's $2 and is worth a look. The start/stop
    issues then become a potential head ache but with everything in AUM you might get fast app loads while you wait for Atom to add new features.

    will it load multi instrumentor track midi files? or only single midi files?

    @eross said:

    @McD said:

    @eross said:
    Really what i would like is a midi player to sit in an. Au slot and be able to just drop it in there and loop the midi file and have it play any instrument i want in Aum. i’m hoping Atom has that ability soon.

    Me too. I tried Musk MIDI Player which supports IAA so you can load it into AUM but you know about the screen swapping on an IAA app so you might not care. Still it's $2 and is worth a look. The start/stop
    issues then become a potential head ache but with everything in AUM you might get fast app loads while you wait for Atom to add new features.

    will it load multi instrumentor track midi files? or only single midi files?

    so i downloaded and tried musk player. it is very helpful. but gui is a little confusing. how do i send each midi track out to different midi channels?

  • @eross said:
    so i downloaded and tried musk player. it is very helpful. but gui is a little confusing. how do i send each midi track out to different midi channels?

    I located a MIDI file using the finder. I selected Share from the menu after holding on the file.
    From the Share options I located the "Musk Player" icon and selected it. That open Musk and I could see
    it's name and that it identified Tracks as "4/0/0/0". Next to that there's an info icon. Open it and the
    4 tracks are shown with the names used in the creating DAW and the info button on each track will
    disclose the CHANNEL to be used and also allow you to disable the channel, choose to Display notes (in the GUI), and an "Instrument" toggle (not sure what that means).

    Now the Musk app has a MIDI settings page and you can set up AUM or any running midi-capable app as a target for these output Channels. Musk also advertises a "Virtual Output" so some DAW's will allow you to select it as an input. There's also a "Session 1" Network output.

    Good luck.

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