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FAC Maxima: Newest Ingredient in The Sauce

So I know this app has been around for a while, but let me tell you, it just made a world of difference in my beats. I had been wondering how I could make my kicks punchier. I did some digging and found that brickwall limiters were a key component I was missing.

So I through Maxima on my kicks and remastered. And hot damn, it changed the game.

@FredAntonCorvest Thank you for what you do!

Comments

  • edited August 2020

    Shhhh.. 🤫

    FAC Maxima Transient is the 1st thing I throw on any iOS beat making app.. yes it’s that good + that important..

  • @royor said:
    Shhhh.. 🤫

    FAC Maxima is the 1st thing I throw on any iOS beat making app.. yes it’s that good + that important..

    🤭🤐

  • @DukeWonder Good analog to TB Barricade? I’m trying to avoid buying barricade if I don’t need it because I do need a couple others. I have Maxima.

  • Yes, agree. I use it often but you have to watch that Mid Boost in some use cases (the Mid Boost is prolly making your kick sound better, though!).

  • edited August 2020

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Yes, agree. I use it often but you have to watch that Mid Boost in some use cases (the Mid Boost is prolly making your kick sound better, though!).

    @lukesleepwalker i agree Maxima can alter pre eq’ing drastically also I have had latency issues with it. Still a good plugin but seperate drum parts could go out of sync due to latency.

  • @DukeWonder yessss! limiters on kicks are great! Limiters on everything, depending what kind of music you are making.

    I know Skrillex and those kind of guys will have limiting at multiple stages. For example, individual tracks, Groups / Busses, pre master bus, as well as the master. The goal is to get everything punching, slamming, and loud before it hits the master, so that you arent over compressing the master and taking away too much punch / dynamic.

    I saw an interview with Skrillex once where they asked what his desert island plugin would be, and he said Fab Filter Pro q, and Pro L. I found it pretty interesting he would list two relatively "non creative" plugins.

  • For me it's Luxe and Barkfilter on drum tracks...I love anything FAC though.

  • @shinyisshiny said:> I saw an interview with Skrillex once where they asked what his desert island plugin would be, and he said Fab Filter Pro q, and Pro L. I found it pretty interesting he would list two relatively "non creative" plugins.

    I'm not a Skrillex fan but this makes me appreciate his approach to sound design more.

  • wimwim
    edited August 2020

    FAC Transient is very helpful for drums as well.

    Another amazing one, though quite CPU heavy, is BeatFormer.

  • edited August 2020

    @shinyisshiny said:
    I know Skrillex and those kind of guys will have limiting at multiple stages. For example, individual tracks, Groups / Busses, pre master bus, as well as the master. The goal is to get everything punching, slamming, and loud before it hits the master, so that you arent over compressing the master and taking away too much punch / dynamic.

    No need to drive things into punching and slamming - it works equally well to achieve just a „healthy“ track level ;)
    The desktop equivalent to Maxima (Saw Studio Levelizer) is probably my most used plugin.
    After cleaning raw tracks I use it to set destination level (say -10dB), pick a moderate threshold and the track will appear as a (close to) perfect take. Print to disk and don‘t need the plugin during mix anymore.
    The operation does not change the frequency response at all, but due to perceived loudness, it will change the impression because the ear‘s frequency response does change with level significantly.

  • edited August 2020

    @lukesleepwalker i agree Maxima can alter pre eq’ing drastically also I have had latency issues with it. Still a good plugin but seperate drum parts could go out of sync due to latency.

    Agreed. Unusable for percussion for me because of the latency. Transient is much more usable for adding attack/punch. YMMV.

    Sorry, quote comes from @Stormbeats

  • @wim said:
    FAC Transient is very helpful for drums as well.

    Actually, now that you’ve mentioned it.. I’ve gotten these 2 apps completely mixed up.. I use Transient ALL the time on percussive elements.. Maxima.. hardly ever.. whoops.. 🤪 Carry on..

  • Pro-tip: throw FAC Transient into the mix.

  • @royor said:

    @wim said:
    FAC Transient is very helpful for drums as well.

    Actually, now that you’ve mentioned it.. I’ve gotten these 2 apps completely mixed up.. I use Transient ALL the time on percussive elements.. Maxima.. hardly ever.. whoops.. 🤪 Carry on..

    oops just said this. oh, well, we're brilliant.

  • what is most used...
    pro-l
    maxima
    transient

    i don’t have any of them but want to get at least one this week, where to start?

  • @king_picadillo said:
    @DukeWonder Good analog to TB Barricade? I’m trying to avoid buying barricade if I don’t need it because I do need a couple others. I have Maxima.

    Negative. At least for me, they have two different uses. Barricade is great for bus compression and limiting. It is last in my mastering chain.

    While I definitely have more to learn about Maxima, I don’t see it replacing Barricade.

    @stormbeats said:

    @lukesleepwalker said:
    Yes, agree. I use it often but you have to watch that Mid Boost in some use cases (the Mid Boost is prolly making your kick sound better, though!).

    @lukesleepwalker i agree Maxima can alter pre eq’ing drastically also I have had latency issues with it. Still a good plugin but seperate drum parts could go out of sync due to latency.

    I’m putting it after my EQ and it has kept things relatively clean.

    Haven’t noticed any latency either, but I’ve only used it on four tracks so far.

  • @DukeWonder thanks, guess I’m destined to buy it. All my attempts at being dissuaded have failed. Cheaper than a dope habit, at least that’s what I tell myself.

    Time machine, rrs bass enhancer and barricade were on my cannot buy list unlesss I absolutely need that and it’s looks like I’m going to fail at not buying all three!

  • I don't use Maxima because of the latency. Nice looking app so seems a shame. Maybe I'm not using it right.

  • All such apps need a look-ahead buffer to smooth out the loudness curve.
    That‘s the difference to the brickwall approach and results in much lower distortion figures.
    It matters for live processing, but not at all during mixdown.

  • @Telefunky said:
    All such apps need a look-ahead buffer to smooth out the loudness curve.
    That‘s the difference to the brickwall approach and results in much lower distortion figures.
    It matters for live processing, but not at all during mixdown.

    Unless it causes phase issues when not on the master channel only.

  • Yes, I‘d expect it to be latency compensating... different story if it isn‘t.
    (I left IOS9 only recently, so don‘t have it yet and still undecided between Maxima and Pro-L2)

  • @Telefunky said:
    All such apps need a look-ahead buffer to smooth out the loudness curve.
    That‘s the difference to the brickwall approach and results in much lower distortion figures.
    It matters for live processing, but not at all during mixdown.

    Bingo. This is crucial to understanding when to use these tools.

  • I may have misunderstood here, are we saying this app can really only be used to master?

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