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New drum options for hard rock?
I have hd drms and rock sessions..any other good drm options
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Rock Drum Machine is really good (better then it looks I'd say). Does subdivisions etc, the four kits are multi sampled/layered. @thesoundtestroom should have a video demo somewhere around here. Audiobus is promised in the next update.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rock-drum-machine/id725234217?mt=8
DrumJam!
@vejichan, there really are several, you just have to be a little flexible in terms of exporting material and look around a bit. About a month ago, I had basically DM1 and FunkBox, and I felt like you do. Now I'm more than satisfied with my rock drum options (I am not a drummer, so ease-of-use is helpful to me).
Here's what I use, and would recommend that you check out:
DM1 - Has about 4 or 5 native acoustic drum kits, and I imported a great kit (from Derek Buddemeyer, I think, discussed on this forum)...the programming and interface is really top-notch, it was just a little too dance/electronic-based
DrumStudio - Has only a few kits, but they are very detailed. Also allows you to manually drum along on a real drumset, or input into a pattern. Actually superior to DM1 for acoustic drums because of the variety of hits you can do (heavy hits, brush, flam, roll, ride, etc.)
DrumBeats+ - If you want a drum "looper", which is pre-programmed drum beats, you can get quite a few hear and change BPM in intervals of 5. If you're a novice to drums and DAW's, it's a great way to get started, and the tracks sound great. No ability to customize the beats, though
Rock Drum Machine - Mentioned by Chris above - this one will be one of the best loopers (and you can customize patterns, too), but as of yet it has no AB or export functions, so it can't do recording/looping...yet. AB update is apparently coming.
Stochastik - One of the best rock drum apps, but it gets a little heat in these parts because it is not AB-compatible. However, you can still export loops in tempo quite easily, and they sound great. The appeal here is tons of different kits and sounds (rock-oriented), and you can program variety so that each pass through a pattern sounds a little different, like a human drummer.
ThumbJam - I just got this yesterday. This really is the ultimate catch-all app if you want to start recording music and need samples of many different instruments. It's 8.99 and about 200MB in file size, but it's a universal app and WORTH it. Probably 3 dozen instruments and free downloads for more. Not only does it have horns, strings, guitars, and synths, but several drum kits that you can export in loops or with AudioBus.
Impaktor - Actually more of a synth, but 99 cents and very cool. Uses the mic on your device so you can tap out rhythms and record a loop. It has like a traditional drum, snare, and toms, but most of the sounds are more unique, like pipes and clanking sounds. But it's touch sensitive and a great way to get ideas out that you can tap with a finger, but can't otherwise program.
Figure (by Propellerhead) - Another 99 cent app that is kind of a stealth drum machine. The kit options are limited, and there's as much electronica as there is rock, but you manually or automatically do patterns and they sound great. It's also a great shortcut way to get a drum and bass line recorded that line up perfectly.
Good hunting!
I use mostly non ios stuff for drums for rock due to the lack of a REALLY good app for that. RockDrumMachine will fill the spot once audiobus is in place soon.
I will also use Drum Jam for Rock oriented stuff more if it ever gets future updates to fit that kind of groove a bit better. Drum Jam has a ton of great potential and the developer does keep updating and it is getting better all of the time. I can't wait for rockdrum machine to get it's update, but I guess I will just have to if I want to do really good rock drums on ios. I use session drummer with good results but it is not designed for drums really but works out in a pinch pretty nicely.
@Tritonman2 said:
I think people just disagree on what they want, or what they want the drum app experience to feel like. Could it be better? Absolutely. But out of the handful I listed above, if I have a specific sound in mind, there's probably a way to get it, and all of those apps were under 10 dollars (and most under 5).
Rock Drum Machine sounds outstanding, but again, that's mostly a looper (at least I think it is). It does have some cool variations on the attack/style of the same parts. But as excited as people are for AB compatibility on that one, if it gets that but no copy/paste? Drum recording in AudioBus can be tricky if you don't have auto start/stop.
DrumPerfect, which I believe is 14.99, was billed by some as that "killer drum app", but it's apparently a resource hog despite the interface looking like a 1990's PC. I've heard it's like a better version of Stochastik, but I'm a little scared off by it.
I use my Korg M50 and Karma for drum related things more often than not. I find with those I mentioned I get some pretty good results though.
@StormJH1 Where did anyone say DrumPerfect is a resource hog? I use it on an iPad 2 with no problems and I've not seen anyone else complain of excess resource usage.
Oh boy, here he goes, couldn't see that coming or anything ;-)
No resource issues on my ipad2 either.
If you haven't made your choice, Rock drum machine or DrumJam as mentioned by ChrisG, obiwahnkentobi (grate name) and StormJH1 would fit the bill for your needs.
@WMWM It's a fair question. You have a problem with it?
+1 for DrumJam. It's where I start all of my drums. And it's where I add nice fills too after laying down the initial track. It's pretty flexible. Not programmable like dm1 or some of those other 808 style drum machines out there, but in my opinion, those aren't ideal for laying down good rock/acoustic backing tracks. Too much fiddling about. Certainly DrumPerfect requires way too much fiddling about. Love the app, would love it to become something I can use because the humanize functions of that app are amazing. I just can't be bothered to spend twenty minutes setting up four bars.
And I would tend to agree with PaulB a usual (except when he's claiming I might be a woman). I don't find Drumperfect to be a resource hog. Just a time hog.
@boone51 I suppose time could have been the resource @StormJH1 was referring to, sweetie...
While I wouldn't actually recommend DrumPerfect to the original poster for reasons I won't go into, I will point out that most of the initial work required to create patterns in DP doesn't have to be repeated. Later on, all you have to do is tweak patterns you've already created. Of course, if you never reach that stage, it doesn't help.
To the Internet Rambo,
Cool story babe, now go make me a samich.
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Honestly though, fair question, hence the wink. I just knew from my experience that was coming.
Nice late edit to the above post. It ended with sweetie...
Well I meant "RAM", but I suppose time and money were other "resources" it uses up.
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I don't know firsthand obviously about its memory usage, so I'm glad to hear I may be wrong! I think it was Music App Blog guy who mentioned it using a lot of memory (his review was mostly positive). I'd like to try it sometime if it went on sale - heck, my DAW cost 10 bucks. 15 is a little high for a drum app I may or may not like.
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Ok, seriously..I am NOT a woman, @PaulB. I'm getting a little tired of having to explain that to you and the other seven people that ask me that every day.
@WMWM said:
Is this because I ignored your friend request on Facebook? It's not personal, I ignore a lot of friend requests from infrequent contacts.
Yes it did. Then I decided to address @boone51's point. Since I was the last poster, I decided to edit rather than make a separate post. Not sure why you mention it...
@StormJH1 Thanks. Interesting, I wonder why he said that? Perhaps there was other stuff running that affected his results?
@boone51 I'm really sorry if my looning about started something that's irritating you, I never imagined that would happen. I only revisited that joke this one time because you referred to it. Would it help if I go back and edit the original post? Or are you pulling my leg?
Lol, nice try, I never use FB. Honestly, I'm not that cool. But you already KNEW that.
Actually, I don't know you from Adam, never even heard ov ya. Paul who? That is, untill I got those photos in my inbox...Paula. 8-) wow wee watta woman!
Laugh...sigh...I'm gonna remember these talks we've shared. They're good fun.
Really? It was just after you asked for a PM in the other thread we participated in. I thought I'd found something that connected the two events, but I forget what it was. I'll check later for my own curiosity, but it's no biggie. Enjoy the photos, whatever lights your candle...
@PaulB - I wasn't sure either because DrumPerfect doesn't look like the type of app that should use a lot of memory. Then again, I picked up Beat-Machine because it looked simple and was only 99 cents, and that thing has a CPU% indicator on the top left of the screen - it pushes up to 50% quite routinely on my iPad2! So maybe ignorance is bliss. The truth with the older hardware is that ANY music app can cause problems when you introduce AB and a DAW if you don't follow the normal steps of closing everything else and going to airplane mode. If you do those things, however, most apps work most of the time.
I don't have DrumJam by Sonosaurus because many people have pointed out that has a ton of "world beats" but not much for rock. However, I happily supported that developer with my purchase of ThumbJam, which actually has some pretty darn good drum samples in there, and more for download!
Cubasis has stack of nice kits, fully programmable, and a ton of pre made loops, Alchemy has some very interesting kits also programmable.
I loaded up my purchased drum midi library into Cubasis and that did sound pretty good .
So far I have not had to go into airplane mode, just closing apps after I am done works.
DrumJam's kits are far better than ThumbJam's because they are velocity layered, incidentally. Yes, DrumJam's loops are focused mostly on ethnic percussion, but the pad and midi controllable kits are more wide-ranging. I will be the first to say that the loop portion of DrumJam isn't the best choice for hard rock, but if you are planning on generating midi grooves for rock/hard rock in another app, then using the kits in DrumJam via virtual midi is a good option.
You might also like the pad performance techniques for laying down some interesting stuff.
@sonosaurus only until the next ThumbJam update, right?
@PaulB said:
Definitely pulling your leg. That's why I made the reference to constantly having to tell others I'm not a woman too. Just a joke. And I've lol'd at yours every time. No worries at all.
Try this...for Beatmaker 2...Dropbox all content into BM2 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e5tuu5387k0ulqq/FhfJLSrT1N
Awesome, and thanks for the mapex kit a while back.
Ahhh...yes the famous mapex kit!
I love that one.