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any good IR Reverb as auv3?!

any good IR Reverb as auv3?!
( long IR loading, etc...)

can't find any...
thanks.

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  • IMPULSation user here. Comes preloaded with a healthy set of very good reverb IRs / presets. I use it mainly for guitar cabs but I just installed a Bricasti M7 IR pack I’ve had on the Mac for awhile. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/impulsation/id1469723900

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    Includes Over 200 Impulses from very popular vintage reverb units:

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  • edited August 2020

    Impulsation is only for iPadOS

    Thafknar is both iOS & iPadOS

  • @Schmotown said:
    I just installed a Bricasti M7 IR pack I’ve had on the Mac for awhile.

    Was that the free pack from samplicity?

    I've never been able to find a site that will let me download it!

  • Btw, if you have true stereo IR sets, THAFKNAR is the only one that handles them.

    I also have the sense that it is somewhat more optimized than others.

  • Got it! Thanks, @royor!!!!

    I noticed one of the download options in the pack is for "quad."

    Anyone know if that is possibly quadraphonic???

  • @SNystrom said:
    Got it! Thanks, @royor!!!!

    I noticed one of the download options in the pack is for "quad."

    Anyone know if that is possibly quadraphonic???

    I believe it is. IME, some of the M7 IRs are very good.

  • @SNystrom said:
    Got it! Thanks, @royor!!!!

    I noticed one of the download options in the pack is for "quad."

    Anyone know if that is possibly quadraphonic???

    That is true stereo. Real stereo (l and right inputs reverberated in stereo) requires four channels of IRs which can be four single channel or (more commonly) two stereo IRs (one that handles the left input and one that handles the right).

  • Are they vastly superior to the non-true stereo IRs?

    THAFKNAR awaits! 😉

  • @waka_x said:
    any good IR Reverb as auv3?!
    ( long IR loading, etc...)

    can't find any...
    thanks.

    Thafknar ... very easy to load IRs

  • Love Thafknar

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @SNystrom said:
    Got it! Thanks, @royor!!!!

    I noticed one of the download options in the pack is for "quad."

    Anyone know if that is possibly quadraphonic???

    That is true stereo. Real stereo (l and right inputs reverberated in stereo) requires four channels of IRs which can be four single channel or (more commonly) two stereo IRs (one that handles the left input and one that handles the right).

    Thanks for explaining. I always thought those were quadraphonic and just ignored them.

  • @SNystrom said:
    Are they vastly superior to the non-true stereo IRs?

    THAFKNAR awaits! 😉

    Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.

    For example, if using an IR on master bus to put the mix in a real
    space , you need true stereo.

    In other situations, whether true stereo makes a big difference will be a matter of personal preference. Sometimes it might make a huge difference but a lot of times the difference is small or not worth the CPU hit. Much depends on your ears.

    I bet there are good articles out there you can find.

    What is super important if not using true stereo when applying to a stereo source is figuring out if you should mix the inputs to mono before sending to the reverb. Some convolutors send the left input yo the left channel IR and right input to the right IR. The result is problematic if you have anything panned away from the center. Those sounds will only appear on one side of the reverb. But in reality something on the far left of the soundstage should have reverberations coming from left and right.

  • Wow, @espiegel123, that is very important and really good to know!

    Thanks for the tip!

  • I was looking for a good reverb in iOS, and found Thafknar, and it didn't look that great, very basic. However once I added the add-on so I could load my own IRs, I then added the Bricasti M7 IRs from Samplicity (I use them also on my desktop) and instantly I have a fantastic reverb. Makes getting Thafknar excellent bang for buck in my view.

    Is there any other convolution reverb I should consider trying on iOS?

  • @Markrs said:
    I was looking for a good reverb in iOS, and found Thafknar, and it didn't look that great, very basic. However once I added the add-on so I could load my own IRs, I then added the Bricasti M7 IRs from Samplicity (I use them also on my desktop) and instantly I have a fantastic reverb. Makes getting Thafknar excellent bang for buck in my view.

    Is there any other convolution reverb I should consider trying on iOS?

    You might consider IMPULSation which has some fine IR reverbs built in. I also use it with the Bricasti M7 package as well as Ownhammer guitar cabinets.

  • @Schmotown said:

    @Markrs said:
    I was looking for a good reverb in iOS, and found Thafknar, and it didn't look that great, very basic. However once I added the add-on so I could load my own IRs, I then added the Bricasti M7 IRs from Samplicity (I use them also on my desktop) and instantly I have a fantastic reverb. Makes getting Thafknar excellent bang for buck in my view.

    Is there any other convolution reverb I should consider trying on iOS?

    You might consider IMPULSation which has some fine IR reverbs built in. I also use it with the Bricasti M7 package as well as Ownhammer guitar cabinets.

    Awesome, I will take a look at it 😊

  • @Markrs said:

    @Schmotown said:

    @Markrs said:
    I was looking for a good reverb in iOS, and found Thafknar, and it didn't look that great, very basic. However once I added the add-on so I could load my own IRs, I then added the Bricasti M7 IRs from Samplicity (I use them also on my desktop) and instantly I have a fantastic reverb. Makes getting Thafknar excellent bang for buck in my view.

    Is there any other convolution reverb I should consider trying on iOS?

    You might consider IMPULSation which has some fine IR reverbs built in. I also use it with the Bricasti M7 package as well as Ownhammer guitar cabinets.

    Awesome, I will take a look at it 😊

    As far as I know ,THAFKNAR is the only convolution app that offers true stereo if you have true stereo IRs and gives you as many options for input to output routing so that for mono to stereo IRs you have the option of applying the reverb to a mono mix (often the correct option). It also allows a secondary IR in the same instance for using two cabinets together.

    It doesn't have a fancy ui but the math is top notch.

  • edited April 2021

    miRack includes a convolution reverb that you can import stereo IR’s into. It’s fairly basic and a little more work to get going due to the modular aspect of the app but it does the job.

  • @mtenk said:
    miRack includes a convolution reverb that you can import stereo IR’s into. It’s fairly basic and a little more work to get going due to the modular aspect of the app but it does the job.

    When you say stereo IR files,do you mean stereo files (a stereo file is a mono-to-stereo IR) or IRs for true stereo (which is either 4 mono files, two stereo files or one quad file)?

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @mtenk said:
    miRack includes a convolution reverb that you can import stereo IR’s into. It’s fairly basic and a little more work to get going due to the modular aspect of the app but it does the job.

    When you say stereo IR files,do you mean stereo files (a stereo file is a mono-to-stereo IR) or IRs for true stereo (which is either 4 mono files, two stereo files or one quad file)?

    It does not work with Quad files but seems to work well with stereo files. I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you mention that a stereo IR is actually mono to stereo? I was under the impression that a stereo IR was actual stereo (L and R)?

  • @mtenk said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @mtenk said:
    miRack includes a convolution reverb that you can import stereo IR’s into. It’s fairly basic and a little more work to get going due to the modular aspect of the app but it does the job.

    When you say stereo IR files,do you mean stereo files (a stereo file is a mono-to-stereo IR) or IRs for true stereo (which is either 4 mono files, two stereo files or one quad file)?

    It does not work with Quad files but seems to work well with stereo files. I’m not sure what you’re referring to when you mention that a stereo IR is actually mono to stereo? I was under the impression that a stereo IR was actual stereo (L and R)?

    When an IR is a stereo file, it provides a stereo reverb image from a point (mono) source. There was an impulse sounded somewhere in space and the stereo file captures the reverberations where the capturing microphones were.

    If you want true stereo reverb to capture say the stereo reverb of instruments played on the left left of the stage and those on the right side of the stage, you need a set of IRs that capture the stereo reverb of the instruments played on the left side of the stage and ANOTHER set of captures for sound emitted on the right side of the stage.

    These have to be capture at separate times to have accurate imaging.

    Typically this is done by putting a speaker where you want the sound source. And a pair of microphones somewhere in the room to capture the reverb at those spots in the room. Usually, that means putting a speaker in the center of the stage for a point source and one mic on the left side of the room and another on the right. If you want reverb as if you were close to the stage you put the mics close to the stage. If you want the reverb of the back of the room, you put them towards the back.

    For true stereo, you leave your capture mics where they are and put the speaker on the left side of the stage and capture an IR and then put it on the right side of the stage and capture the IR.

    When you have only a stereo file as an IR, it can't process the left and right channels separately to accurately represent what happens to the sounds from the left and right channels.

    You can find lots of info about this on the net. Altiverb has a good page on the topic (and explains how to capture IRs), but I couldn't find it. But there are lots of other pages that discuss it.

    To see an example of why a single stereo file can't accurately to reverb of a stereo source, run an audio file that has just two instruments hard panned left and right and run it through a convolution app.

  • edited April 2021

    Great explanation @espiegel123. That makes perfect sense. Thanks!

  • My favorite also. I’ve loaded it with hundreds of my own IR files I’ve accumulated from all over and it’s very useful to me now.

  • Jax convolutor pro looks quite nice as well, be interested to know if anyone has used it?

  • @Markrs said:
    Jax convolutor pro looks quite nice as well, be interested to know if anyone has used it?

    I found IMPULSation better for my method of production.

  • @Markrs said:
    Jax convolutor pro looks quite nice as well, be interested to know if anyone has used it?

    It has some problems — particularly with tracks that have wide dynamic range or low amplitude sections. I also found it to be heavier on the CPU than THAFKNAR. Perhaps those issues have been addressed but the developer indicated at the time that he wasn’t likely to do any more work on it as it hadn’t been successful enough to justify more time. And it doesn’t look like the AU has been updated since the issues were reported.

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