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bismarck i-16 : what are Scenes and how do I use them

Yep, what are they? How are they used?

Would that help me cluster together files from different libraries into my own custom preset list? It seems that presets in each library can be called up using Program, LSB and MSB numbers, but each library uses the same "location" numbers. For example 0 0 0 calls up stereo grand in one library, and Yamaha C5 Grand in a different library. Is it possible to create a custom library with my favorite presets from several libraries?

Haven't found any decent documentation on this app,

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  • Are you calling up Program, LSB and MSB numbers from an external MIDI controller or another app?

    Each library uses the same "location" numbers. For example 0 0 0 calls up stereo grand in one library, and Yamaha C5 Grand in a different library.

    In BS-16i each library gets it's presets from a ready made SF2 file. To load a library with ready to run instrument assignments (and the samples that need to be referenced) you would need to generate each custom SF2 using something like the Mac Polyphone app.

    Scenes allow you to have the UI in BS-16i call up specific instruments from 1 of 8 optional
    SF2 loaded libraries (with memory being a limiting factor on how many you can load).

    So, I'm wondering if calling up 0 0 0 uses the first instrument in the active "Scenes" file or
    one of the Libaries as a default. If I remember correctly the 0 0 0 numbers reference a "Bank Select" and a Most Significant Byte and Least Significant Byte Command Pair:

    I tried to use these commands to call presets in the iSymphonic app since it can load
    from a huge pool of instruments. I was using Xequence to generate the MIDI Commands.
    I quit because iSymphonic didn't seem to respond correctly to the instructions.

    You're question here stimulates my interest in the topic. Hopefully, someone has more experience because these commands used to be essential to call up presets on hardware synths with many banks.

  • @McD said:
    Are you calling up Program, LSB and MSB numbers from an external MIDI controller or another app?

    Yes, I'm calling up these numbers in my app host Keystage.

    Scenes allow you to have the UI in BS-16i call up specific instruments from 1 of 8 optional
    SF2 loaded libraries (with memory being a limiting factor on how many you can load).

    That sounds like what I'm looking for, but how to save the instruments into a Scene?

  • In stand alone more... load the 16 BS-16i Parts with specific instruments. Then in setting
    go to "Scenes" and use the "Save as New Scene...".

    What I curious is... when you send 0 0 0 does that even relate to the concept of a Scene or is Scene a configuration for the BS-16i GUI?

    Do the 8 "Libraries" in BS-16i map to 8 "Banks" available to the external MIDI controllers?
    So, 3 0 1 would call up the 1st instrument defined in Library #3? and if it does which BS-16i
    Part would get the new instrument load?

    There are external MIDI controllers and a GUI aspect to BS-16i and they overlap in function in a way I don't understand. But experimentation sending 3 0 1 might answer the question.

    This looks like a job for the "Laboratory Use of the Scientific Method". Fun.

  • I don't think you can trigger/load banks with the MSB/LSB numbers. i-16 only loads and reads one library at a time.

  • edited September 2020

    think scene is a snapshot of the current multitimbral setting 1-16 chan. with it all the preset numbers levels,pan etc stored /recalled. Actually I think its possible to load up diff sf2 in scenes have to chk this

  • edited September 2020

    ok made a scene with 2 diff soundfonts, saved, recalled, works. So the limit for scenes are 2 soundfonts at the same time. (Each "scene" can use 2 of the 8 slots with loaded sf2. aka "library ")

  • How do you recall a scene with a midi controller? It only sends PC messages

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