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THU—Holy Grail for Fender sound

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  • Thanks! Yeah, i wanna keep things simple and not go down that rabbit hole. Plus budget is not conducive to over spending now. I wanna get the best Fender Cleans, Dumble style tone to make my worship backing tracks. The Boogie is more because i've always dreamed of owning one and even though the Bogie Dual Reverb 25 was my first choice since that was the amp i heard in person, the Boogie MK5, i've read to have this tone plus way more since lots of rigs were captured for the MK5. Just wish they went on sale man.

    @SNystrom said:
    Excellent choices, @Tones4Christ. I have both and always go to them first, followed by the Tone Impera!

  • Lurker here:) Can any experts chime in in? Tried overloud support but didn’t get an answer.
    I have a „problem“ with the rig library TAF Midgain Monsters in THU Overloud. Some rigs don't seem to work without the cab. They lack the high frequency response the other rigs have. They are not direct. The 30 Vocs Boost with cab sound "wrong" whereas without cab it sounds better but definitely not direct.
    And when I enable the included cab it almost sounds like there was just a EQ/Filter engaged.
    Those libraries seem to have a similar "faulty" frequency response without cab:
    08 Jump Mk2
    09 Sold Crunch
    25 Crystal Boost
    26 Fuch Driven
    27 Grande Full
    29 Train45
    30 Vocs Boost

    Is this intentionally or a software fault? Had the same „problem“ with the demo of the new Wisseloord rigs. No cab rigs sounded the same as the merged ones. Definitely not direct. Thanks.

  • So I’ve been reading back through this epic thread and I’m none the wiser.
    Could you advise me on what is the best set up for 2022?

    What are the go to amps… Nembrini or overloud? Do I still need the pedal collection from Overloud or has that been covered in other areas eg: mixbox (I have that already)

    Or do I buy the rigs from overloud?

  • I love THU! But Nembrini is awesome too!
    Now my third choice is Rhino! Get it while you possibly can while on sale $9.99 seriously! Cheaper than a single THI rig!

  • @Tones4Christ said:
    I love THU! But Nembrini is awesome too!
    Now my third choice is Rhino! Get it while you possibly can while on sale $9.99 seriously! Cheaper than a single THI rig!

    How annoying I literally bought it a week or so ago.

  • I felt same way paying full price for Overloud missing out in the sale. But this app truly makes up for it. I really love it!!!’

    @WigWamBam said:

    @Tones4Christ said:
    I love THU! But Nembrini is awesome too!
    Now my third choice is Rhino! Get it while you possibly can while on sale $9.99 seriously! Cheaper than a single THI rig!

    How annoying I literally bought it a week or so ago.

  • edited February 2022

    Just recorded short guitar jam with BM Bogna EC Classic rig. It's my favorite rig library now!

  • Sweet tone!

    Love it.❤️👍🏼👍🏼🎸

    @Kranick said:
    Just recorded short guitar jam with BM Bogna EC Classic rig. It's my favorite rig library now!

  • Thank you @Tones4Christ! I had a great time with this rigs while playing this jam. It’s a really really great library with a lot of useful sounds!

  • edited February 2022

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, this is weird. I read the sales copy, and I have to say if you asked me what four artists would I never want to sound like, there's a good chance I would land on Def Leppard, Boston, Kiss and Joe Satriani. Which is exactly what Overloud claims the Rockguy emulates. And yet this video has me really interested. Mostly, I like that it just can sound weird.

    May I ask what’s wrong with Def Leppard?
    Hysteria is a banger too! 🤣

  • $19 on iOS, and currently only $19 on desktop. Buy the desktop and get the iOS for $1. Is there even a market for acoustic piezo presets?

  • @JoyceRoadStudios

    Tagging the guru of course, but anyone else as well…how’s the Boston Rockman sustain/delay pack? Worth the $22 price for an upcoming evening of whiskey sipping and jamming around for fun? Based on my experience, the a la carte “deluxe” effects have been hit (Symphonic 90) or miss (Echorex).

  • edited May 2022

    @WigWamBam said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:
    Well, this is weird. I read the sales copy, and I have to say if you asked me what four artists would I never want to sound like, there's a good chance I would land on Def Leppard, Boston, Kiss and Joe Satriani. Which is exactly what Overloud claims the Rockguy emulates. And yet this video has me really interested. Mostly, I like that it just can sound weird.

    May I ask what’s wrong with Def Leppard?
    Hysteria is a banger too! 🤣

    Dog, Def Leppard is amazing. The pop sensibilities with A+++ production (such as any bgvs, mixing and blending or complementing chorus gtr with the perfect distorted, or to sum it up in one moment: the intro til the chorus bass kicks in on Love Bites and at that moment you just go “holy fuck! Thats somethin”). That’s all pretty objective; and me personally, I love an everyday dude who’s heartfelt but not cloying, longing without whining, and not afraid to cut deep to challenge a woman he wants even though she’s flawed.

  • When I use TH-U, it’s always noisy. There’s a lot of gain noise even when I’m not even though I don’t have the gain cranked up. Playing in Ableton, but it’s the same on the iPad.

    If I play the same guitar through my analog+Mooer radar rig, and take a line from that into Ableton, it’s totally silent when not playing.

    Any ideas why TH-U is noisy? It happens on most amps that aren’t totally clean.

  • @mistercharlie said:
    When I use TH-U, it’s always noisy. There’s a lot of gain noise even when I’m not even though I don’t have the gain cranked up. Playing in Ableton, but it’s the same on the iPad.

    If I play the same guitar through my analog+Mooer radar rig, and take a line from that into Ableton, it’s totally silent when not playing.

    Any ideas why TH-U is noisy? It happens on most amps that aren’t totally clean.

    I don’t find it different from any other amp sim when the actual amount of gain and eq is the same. It is possible that the default signal levels are different. I.e. the actual signal gain rather than the “gain” parameter which does a lot more than gain.

    If your pedal is totally silent, are you sure it doesn’t have either a noise gate or downward expander built in?

  • wimwim
    edited May 2022

    @mistercharlie said:
    When I use TH-U, it’s always noisy. There’s a lot of gain noise even when I’m not even though I don’t have the gain cranked up. Playing in Ableton, but it’s the same on the iPad.

    If I play the same guitar through my analog+Mooer radar rig, and take a line from that into Ableton, it’s totally silent when not playing.

    Any ideas why TH-U is noisy? It happens on most amps that aren’t totally clean.

    This doesn't really answer your question, but the experience might at least hint at a few things to experiment with.

    I have an old ART Tube MP, a tube guitar preamp. I gave up trying to use it long ago because of way too much noise added to the signal, even at little gain. I was running a standard guitar cable to it, then another guitar cable out of it to my computer or iOS interface. By chance a while ago, I switched to a balanced mic cable to go from the MP output to my iOS interface and ... the noise vanished. I can only assume that this had something to do with Hi-Z vs. Low-Z output/input. I dunno. But when you mentioned that the noise is gone when going through the Mooer, it made me think of that.

    One thing that isn't clear to me. Your question is about THU, but have you tried with a different amp sim? Maybe one of the free ones from Nembrini? I'm guessing that you'll see the same no matter which amp sim, meaning that this is about the signal chain from your guitar rather than about THU.

    One more thing. For me the Apple CCK if connected to an AC power adapter injects buzz no matter what I do. Remove the power and the buzz disappears. Power the CCK from a battery bank and it's totally silent.

    Just some things to try to narrow it down. I'm pretty sure that it's a signal chain issue and not having anything to do with THU itself.

  • One more thing. For me the Apple CCK if connected to an AC power adapter injects buzz no matter what I do. Remove the power and the buzz disappears. Power the CCK from a battery bank and it's totally silent.

    Just some things to try to narrow it down. I'm virtually positive that it's a signal chain issue and not having anything to do with THU itself.

    Wim, what’s the easiest way to do this in 2022 with UsB- C iPad? Thanks

  • wimwim
    edited May 2022

    @audiobussy said:

    One more thing. For me the Apple CCK if connected to an AC power adapter injects buzz no matter what I do. Remove the power and the buzz disappears. Power the CCK from a battery bank and it's totally silent.

    Just some things to try to narrow it down. I'm virtually positive that it's a signal chain issue and not having anything to do with THU itself.

    Wim, what’s the easiest way to do this in 2022 with UsB- C iPad? Thanks

    Sorry, I don't know. I don't have one.

  • edited May 2022

    @mistercharlie said:
    When I use TH-U, it’s always noisy. There’s a lot of gain noise even when I’m not even though I don’t have the gain cranked up. Playing in Ableton, but it’s the same on the iPad.

    If I play the same guitar through my analog+Mooer radar rig, and take a line from that into Ableton, it’s totally silent when not playing.

    Any ideas why TH-U is noisy? It happens on most amps that aren’t totally clean.

    The Mooer Radar is powered with its own power adapter. Maybe this way you have some sort of ground connection? I think the output of the Radar is line level, or low-Z. Or maybe the noise goes away because of a buffer inside a pedal in the signal chain?

    I use a Apogee Jam for my guitar input (guitar only, no pedals) and it is very silent with THU and Nembrini too.

  • Thanks for the answers.

    My pedalboard has an Ethos Clean analog amp sim, a Hudson Broadcast, and the Mooer Radar. These are in a loop in an Eventide MixingLink. The signal goes from the MixingLink’s line XLR into my audio interface. It then goes to powered monitors and/or Ableton.

    If I am using TH-U, I bypass the pedals in the MixingLink’s loop. Same routing otherwise.

    All powered by a Strymon Zuma. No noise gates anywhere.

    There’s no noise in the signal chain at all. If I listen to the guitar direct into Ableton, it’s noise-free , whether going through pedals or not.

    The noise is definitely coming from TH-U. I expect it’s a noisy, gain-y amp I’m using, but it isn’t a dirty preset. I’m using the Rola Drive preset if anyone wonders.

    I will try some more experimenting, to find an amp that is nice and break-up-y, but not noisy.

  • wimwim
    edited May 2022

    There's no way an amp sim is gonna introduce noise. It'll only amplify noise that is already there.

  • Then I must have it dialed in wrong. I will investigate further

  • New build up today with bug fixes.

  • Solved, and you were all correct. I tried a few different things, and in the end it looks like the noise was coming from the preamp in my K-Mix audio interface.

    I solved it by running the guitar into an Eventide Mixing Link, and taking a line level signal from there into the K-Mix, avoiding the pre-amp altogether. A good strong signal, and much less noise.

  • I think that there is a sale on for TH-U bundles and also rigs -- I am not sure which rigs are on sale, though.

  • Indeed, @espiegel123, received this message from AppSliced:

  • I thought it was odd that TH-U full for desktop on sale was half the price of TH-U full for iOS…

  • Rigs on sale too

  • edited June 2022

    I have bought the Tone Impera rig for 13 euro, that is aprox 6 euro discount. The Twin65 is also discounted, but the Twin Edge model is not. I think I should hold back, I have no real need for the Twin65 (I own Bassman, Trem63, Super Reverb, & Dang rig).

  • @raabje said:
    I have bought the Tone Impera rig for 13 euro, that is aprox 6 euro discount. The Twin65 is also discounted, but the Twin Edge model is not. I think I should hold back, I have no real need for the Twin65 (I own Bassman, Trem63, Super Reverb, & Dang rig).

    Does anyone know if the Bogie MKV price ($19.99) is a discount of the normal price?

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