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Taming the rattling frequencies

lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker
in App Tips and Tricks

What are your techniques for taming the sounds that rattle the monitors but aren't clipping? It drives me crazy when I keep pulling back the level on a channel or dialing back the compressor and I still get that rattling in my monitors. Use an equalizer with a visualizer and notch the offending frequency? Other techniques?

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  • jolicojolico

    Tighten the screws of your monitors.
    Close the problematic gaps.

  • 0tolerance4silence0tolerance4silence

    Sometimes it's easy to spot and tame, but more often than I'd like to admit I simply replace the sound for the lack of better solutions. So yeah, I'd like to hear other opinions too.

  • ciancian

    That technique will work for finding them. Once you've found the frequency you have several options:

    • Identify the offending instrument and notch it before the mix.
    • If you can't find the instruments, consider using a low-shelf on one or more of your instruments as it's likely they are fighting for sonic space (which is why you have issues in that frequency).
    • If it's an occasional rumble, and the above isn't applicable, you you could use a multi-band compressor as a kind of limiter.
  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @jolico said:
    Tighten the screws of your monitors.
    Close the problematic gaps.

    It's a good point but I use multiple monitors and they can't all have loose screws, right?

  • jolicojolico

    @lukesleepwalker said:

    @jolico said:
    Tighten the screws of your monitors.
    Close the problematic gaps.

    It's a good point but I use multiple monitors and they can't all have loose screws, right?

    Have you tried tracking down the exact frequency that causes the “rattling” with something like this?
    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sonic/id986999895

    You can keep it playing so that you can find the cause of the problem. (Amp/EQ/Monitor/furniture/etc.)

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    Some great suggestions here, thanks everyone!

    @jolico wasn't aware of apps like that. that's handy.

  • klownshedklownshed

    The rattling might be from less than optimal listening environment. I’ve had it myself where you remove the bass frequency that caused issues only to find the mix sounds terrible everywhere else.

    So i listen to a rough mix on a few different speakers/headphones first to eliminate the standing wave/phase cancellation issues my Crappy untreated room causes.

    Then if it still sounds shite in the car and on headphones I can start to work out what the issues in the mix are.

  • TarekithTarekith

    Turn down the bass.

    Sounds silly and simple, but that's pretty much the only thing that rattles monitors and if it's happening on multiple monitors for you then you can safely assume you just have WAY too much bass overall. I'd start with a gentle shelf below 120Hz and experiment from there.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @Tarekith said:
    Turn down the bass.

    Sounds silly and simple, but that's pretty much the only thing that rattles monitors and if it's happening on multiple monitors for you then you can safely assume you just have WAY too much bass overall. I'd start with a gentle shelf below 120Hz and experiment from there.

    Yeah, so this is where I started. And what I found was that in 70% of the cases, this is the culprit. But there are some mid-range frequencies that are the culprit in the other 30%. I actually opened up a scope and looked and there are no bass frequencies in these sounds that are rattling the monitors.

  • wimwim

    Are you positive the rattle isn't caused by anything loose between your ears? If it's happening with multiple monitors then it tends to reinforce that this could be the cause.

    Note: you're unlikely to be able to detect the rattling just by shaking your own head. Taping a couple of bass drivers to your head may work, but often it's just better to see a specialist.

  • lukesleepwalkerlukesleepwalker

    @wim said:
    Are you positive the rattle isn't caused by anything loose between your ears? If it's happening with multiple monitors then it tends to reinforce that this could be the cause.

    Note: you're unlikely to be able to detect the rattling just by shaking your own head. Taping a couple of bass drivers to your head may work, but often it's just better to see a specialist.

    I do have a hammer. Will try it.

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