Korg iWAVESTATION - interface woes

kinkujin

Ok so please tell me that this app really isn’t as fiddly as it seems on my early uses. I mean, holy crap, I cannot even grab a little square on the screen to adjust ‘duration’ without attempting to grab it 4 or 5 times?! Are you joking?

Please tell me that you can somehow select a wave file besides running your finger up and down that super fiddly rectangle becase no matter how hard I try I cannot select what I want.

Wow, just super wow infuriating. omg

Philandering_Bastard

Are you talking about this page? Works fine for me:

kinkujin

Yes that and the page with wavesequence.

Must be me then.

Philandering_Bastard

@kinkujin said:
Yes that and the page with wavesequence.

Must be me then.

FWIW I’m on an Air 2.

rs2000

@kinkujin said:
Ok so please tell me that this app really isn’t as fiddly as it seems on my early uses. I mean, holy crap, I cannot even grab a little square on the screen to adjust ‘duration’ without attempting to grab it 4 or 5 times?! Are you joking?

Please tell me that you can somehow select a wave file besides running your finger up and down that super fiddly rectangle becase no matter how hard I try I cannot select what I want.

Wow, just super wow infuriating. omg

Confirmed. I'm using iOS Accessibility Zoom when editing. iOS requires many workarounds and this is another one.
It's a quick gesture, double-tap with three fingers on a sane screen area then move them upwards to zoom in. Limit the zoom level in iOS settings to maybe 2.0 or 2.5. Works well enough and is also useful in a number of other apps from developers that might have to learn that the whole iDevice screen is more than just a window, just like some human thumbs are wider than a japanese chopstick.

kinkujin

@rs2000 said:

@kinkujin said:
Ok so please tell me that this app really isn’t as fiddly as it seems on my early uses. I mean, holy crap, I cannot even grab a little square on the screen to adjust ‘duration’ without attempting to grab it 4 or 5 times?! Are you joking?

Please tell me that you can somehow select a wave file besides running your finger up and down that super fiddly rectangle becase no matter how hard I try I cannot select what I want.

Wow, just super wow infuriating. omg

Confirmed. I'm using iOS Accessibility Zoom when editing. iOS requires many workarounds and this is another one.
It's a quick gesture, double-tap with three fingers on a sane screen area then move them upwards to zoom in. Limit the zoom level in iOS settings to maybe 2.0 or 2.5. Works well enough and is also useful in a number of other apps from developers that might have to learn that the whole iDevice screen is more than just a window, just like some human thumbs are wider than a japanese chopstick.

Glad I’m not alone. Thanks for the tips.

rs2000

@kinkujin Btw, always tap slightly left of the white rectangles to grab them. 🤔

R_2

Adjusting “Duration” works ok for me. XFade length is more fiddly but, as mentioned by @rs2000, tapping slightly to the left works better.

Perhaps it’s partly the multifunctional UI of those wavesequences causing it. There’s a lot going on: tap / tap and hold / tap and drag gestures.
Or maybe it’s just bad design, since the vertical adjustments (volume, etc) respond smoothly.

kinkujin

@R_2 said:
Adjusting “Duration” works ok for me. XFade length is more fiddly but, as mentioned by @rs2000, tapping slightly to the left works better.

Perhaps it’s partly the multifunctional UI of those wavesequences causing it. There’s a lot going on: tap / tap and hold / tap and drag gestures.
Or maybe it’s just bad design, since the vertical adjustments (volume, etc) respond smoothly.

Thanks. Any app poses it challenges and i fully expect to get frustrated. But I've never felt that much RAGE at an app. Maybe I needed a couple of beers. I'll give it another go or two and see if I can learn a few tricks.

kinkujin

@rs2000 said:
@kinkujin Btw, always tap slightly left of the white rectangles to grab them. 🤔

Funny, the first one in that window seems to be the worst. It is so crushed that it seems impossible to grab.

Do folk use an Apple Pencil with this thing?

R_2

For fine adjustments I pinch to zoom (use the turquoise bar at bottom to move through the wavesequence from left to right).

Also, wiping the grease of the screen helps making it more responsive

rs2000

@kinkujin said:

@rs2000 said:
@kinkujin Btw, always tap slightly left of the white rectangles to grab them. 🤔

Funny, the first one in that window seems to be the worst. It is so crushed that it seems impossible to grab.

Do folk use an Apple Pencil with this thing?

I refuse to use one 😅
Accessibility Zoom works well for me. And yes, going small steps supported by a few good beers does help a lot.
iWavestation is a really great app, otherwise I wouldn't be ready to invest that much patience.
As soon as you've started exploring and layering the built-in samples you'll see that there's a lot of gold hidden inside, more than most other synths have on offer.

kinkujin

@rs2000 said:

@kinkujin said:

@rs2000 said:
@kinkujin Btw, always tap slightly left of the white rectangles to grab them. 🤔

Funny, the first one in that window seems to be the worst. It is so crushed that it seems impossible to grab.

Do folk use an Apple Pencil with this thing?

I refuse to use one 😅
Accessibility Zoom works well for me. And yes, going small steps supported by a few good beers does help a lot.
iWavestation is a really great app, otherwise I wouldn't be ready to invest that much patience.
As soon as you've started exploring and layering the built-in samples you'll see that there's a lot of gold hidden inside, more than most other synths have on offer.

I'll give that a shot. And I'll use the app only while mildly intoxicated. What could it hurt?

*edit - ok, thanks for talking me down, just spent lunch with it and some of the interface is sinking in. It's brilliant.

RUST( i )K

You got a stylus?

kinkujin

Yeah, a non Apple type.

RUST( i )K

@kinkujin said:
Yeah, a non Apple type.

Me niether