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For those of us who still love hardware synths PROPHET

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  • In 2020, for that price and size, it's a bit meh for me. I value multiitimbrality much more. I feel same way about Moog One.

    Retirement synths for sure, but otherwise I'd invest more in modular and have more sonic territory to explore. Polyphony lost the fight when sampling came along and a second time when software emulation started. I'll get if others disagree. Heh.

  • edited October 2020

    Pay half the price and get a Macbook Pro for free.

    U-he have put an insane amount of research into this:

    To me, the result is absolutely stunning and I feel no need for the hardware anymore.

  • I'm saving up for the desktop version

  • If I had the dosh I’d be all over it - but that’s coz I’m old & the synth I dreamed of as a teenager was a prophet 5. Not an issue tho as I don’t have the luxury of being loaded. It would just be a sentimental buy.

  • @Lurcher said:
    If I had the dosh I’d be all over it - but that’s coz I’m old & the synth I dreamed of as a teenager was a prophet 5. Not an issue tho as I don’t have the luxury of being loaded. It would just be a sentimental buy.

    Indeed. A great sounding, mid life crisis synth, as I saw someone say. hehe

  • I wish.

    Looks so nice but at this point I’ll stick to my iPhone synths 🙃

  • @GovernorSilver said:
    I'm saving up for the desktop version

    Have they announced one? Would be lovely with my OB-6 desktop....

  • edited October 2020

    @Tarekith said:

    @GovernorSilver said:
    I'm saving up for the desktop version

    Have they announced one? Would be lovely with my OB-6 desktop....

    They updated their comparison chart, which I didn't notice the first time I looked, until another person pointed out the row labeled "Desktop version available?". It's possible that the "Yes" value under the Prophet 5 column is a mistake. I peeked a bit in Gearslutz and read as much as I could tolerate before the noise fatigue took over, and saw that the Sequential person (cbmd) brought up some copy errors already.

    The chart is also useful for peeps who ask "Why not get Prophet 6 instead?"

    https://yo41t1y5gos9jw8f3lptw0xo-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Sequential-Synth-Comparison-Chart-5.1.pdf

    Manual document mentions support for MIDI CC and NPRN but references a MIDI implementation document that did not appear to be uploaded yet, as of the time I viewed the manual.

  • Well I just bought a lottery ticket so let’s see how that goes....if I win I’ll buy everyone in this thread one 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Strizbiz said:
    Well I just bought a lottery ticket so let’s see how that goes....if I win I’ll buy everyone in this thread one 😂😂😂😂😂

    I will post in this thread just in case.

    BTW, is there an IOS clone of the Prophet (the clone by Arturia has bad rating, I'm looking for an other one).

  • edited October 2020

    I was at a party where one person brought his Prophet 6 and another brought his laptop with Arturia Prophet V. Both of them have the 40 presets that were on the vintage Prophet 5, so we just started scrolling through presets and comparing them. We thought both emulations (hardware and software) sounded similar enough.

    My long-winded way of saying count me out of the list of people dissing Arturia's software emulation.

  • @Montreal_Music said:

    @Strizbiz said:
    Well I just bought a lottery ticket so let’s see how that goes....if I win I’ll buy everyone in this thread one 😂😂😂😂😂

    I will post in this thread just in case.

    BTW, is there an IOS clone of the Prophet (the clone by Arturia has bad rating, I'm looking for an other one).

    Lol, well it’s 40 million tonight so I got u if I win !!! Lol but I’m not really mad at the Arturia IOS version, but I just don’t use non auv3 synths much these days, I think it sounds great but it’s pretty much abandonware at this point, no update in 3 years🤷🏽‍♂️

  • I played with the u-He version a good bit when it came out and was impressed (but not surprised) at how good it sounded. So for me it's less about wanting "that" sound per se, and more about wanting a really nicely made instrument to play. My OB-6 reminds me of my Taylor acoustic, it's just a really well designed tool for playing with sound.

    Shame about no desktop though...

  • edited October 2020

    @Tarekith said:
    Shame about no desktop though...

    I wouldn't give up so easily, based on cbmd's latest batch of posts to GS.

    As long as the official comparison chart continues to say there's a P5 desktop, you can continue to hold out hope.

  • edited October 2020

    @GovernorSilver said:
    I was at a party where one person brought his Prophet 6 and another brought his laptop with Arturia Prophet V. Both of them have the 40 presets that were on the vintage Prophet 5, so we just started scrolling through presets and comparing them. We thought both emulations (hardware and software) sounded similar enough.

    My long-winded way of saying count me out of the list of people dissing Arturia's software emulation.

    I think the rant was about the iOS "Prophet" emulation which has nothing to do with a Prophet 5 because it emulates the Prophet VS, a completely different instrument. In fact I don't remember any iOS Prophet 5 emu (Ik Multimedia have a Syntronik "Pro V" based on samples, I wouldn't call this a synth emulation)

    @Tarekith said:
    I played with the u-He version a good bit when it came out and was impressed (but not surprised) at how good it sounded. So for me it's less about wanting "that" sound per se, and more about wanting a really nicely made instrument to play. My OB-6 reminds me of my Taylor acoustic, it's just a really well designed tool for playing with sound.

    Can't argue with that 😊

  • Given that Sequential released desktop versions of each of their flagships, there may still be one. The best thing about classic polys is the multiple waveforms which makes them sound thick af.

  • @rs2000 said:

    I think the rant was about the iOS "Prophet" emulation which has nothing to do with a Prophet 5 because it emulates the Prophet VS, a completely different instrument. In fact I don't remember any iOS Prophet 5 emu (Ik Multimedia have a Syntronik "Pro V" based on samples, I wouldn't call this a synth emulation)

    don't quite understand why someone would bring up a Prophet VS emulation app on a Prophet 5 thread but, hey I just assume all musos are crazy - it's just a matter of degree

  • edited October 2020

    @auxmux said:
    Given that Sequential released desktop versions of each of their flagships, there may still be one. The best thing about classic polys is the multiple waveforms which makes them sound thick af.

    It's in the chart. Scroll up to see my earlier post to Tarekith. The one with the PDF link

  • edited October 2020

    Actually, I'd love a hardware version of Prophet VS, but that's me. Interesting that the PDF specifically mentions 3340 chip for oscillators for P5 but not P6. Wondering what Curtis chip P6 uses.

    Also, I'm shocked that P5 has no built in effects for 3499, not enough digital ones.

  • edited October 2020

    @auxmux said:
    Actually, I'd love a hardware version of Prophet VS, but that's me. Interesting that the PDF specifically mentions 3340 chip for oscillators for P5 but not P6. Wondering what Curtis chip P6 uses.

    Also, I'm shocked that P5 has no built in effects for 3499, not enough digital ones.

    I've heard people say that the 8 was closer to the 5 than the 6 in terms of sound.

  • edited October 2020

    Opinions on the P8 were so varied and wild. I've noticed though the same old guys who kept dissing every Dave Smith synth for not being vintage enough or whatever halted their complaining around the time OB-6 and P-6 were released.

    Somebody should have done a preset-to-preset comparison of the P8 to P5 to test out any claims of P8 being better than P6 in making P5 sounds. Too late now, as it doesn't appear on the Sequential site anymore.

  • "...and of course, as we know, ever since then every synth that's not a monosynth is basically a version of the Prophet-5".
    What a bold claim.
    Along this line, one could also say that the Prophet-5 was a cheap ripoff of the Yamaha CS-80. 😅

  • I actually sat up when he said that. Then quickly forgot it and went back to thinking damn! I want one of these.

    I just cannot imagine someone not wanting one. :#

  • edited October 2020

    @kinkujin said:
    I actually sat up when he said that. Then quickly forgot it and went back to thinking damn! I want one of these.

    I just cannot imagine someone not wanting one. :#

    you could always visit GearSlutz or MuffWiggler. Guaranteed you'll find the craziest opinions there.

    On Youtube one of the funnier comments was "I can't believe you didn't put a sequencer or FX in the P5". I'm sure someone will complain about no multi-GB grand piano sample soon enough.

  • @GovernorSilver said:

    @kinkujin said:
    I actually sat up when he said that. Then quickly forgot it and went back to thinking damn! I want one of these.

    I just cannot imagine someone not wanting one. :#

    you could always visit GearSlutz or MuffWiggler. Guaranteed you'll find the craziest opinions there.

    On Youtube one of the funnier comments was "I can't believe you didn't put a sequencer or FX in the P5". I'm sure someone will complain about no multi-GB grand piano sample soon enough.

    Haha, now at least Dave Smith has responded to the latter with his Prophet X 😁

  • edited October 2020

    @rs2000 said:

    @GovernorSilver said:

    @kinkujin said:
    I actually sat up when he said that. Then quickly forgot it and went back to thinking damn! I want one of these.

    I just cannot imagine someone not wanting one. :#

    you could always visit GearSlutz or MuffWiggler. Guaranteed you'll find the craziest opinions there.

    On Youtube one of the funnier comments was "I can't believe you didn't put a sequencer or FX in the P5". I'm sure someone will complain about no multi-GB grand piano sample soon enough.

    Haha, now at least Dave Smith has responded to the latter with his Prophet X 😁

    Inhalt actually tried to reason with some of the folks in the Youtube comments. I'm guessing Inhalt is a young person. He'll learn from his mistakes.

    Prophet X has a mind-boggling mod matrix compared to P5. P5's mod matrix looks basic by comparison, but people who know what they're buying and want the P5... I would think know exactly what they're getting...

    The peeps who look at the P5 specs and complain about the sparse modulation options... maybe should consider another Sequential model. Pro 3 has an insane mod matrix - 46 sources, 171 destinations.

  • @kinkujin said:
    I actually sat up when he said that. Then quickly forgot it and went back to thinking damn! I want one of these.

    I just cannot imagine someone not wanting one. :#

    It's a beautiful instrument, no question.
    And it's easy to edit plus it has presets (!) which was not a given back in the old days.
    Considering the other fantastic hardware synths we have today, count me as someone who would prefer a Novation Peak or Summit, or even a Nord Lead 3 which to me has still the best synth user interface ever built.

  • edited October 2020

    Oh I guess since I brought up Inhalt's video, I should share it here for convenience. It's a bit noodly at times but it currently stands out as the only P5 reissue demo that does NOT use effects.

    He has a very wordy description that ends with this:

    "The Prophet 5 was recorded straight into Pro Tools HD and no post processing or fx were added. What you're hearing is the raw Rev 4."

    J3PO has a demo that I think is quite nice but damn he's got the thing drowning in Strymon pedal magic.

  • Just confirmed on Reddit from sequential, a desktop is definitely in the works. ☺️

  • edited October 2020

    Yeah, he also confirmed on GS.

    Also, he posted assurance that they don't have any intention of limiting production of this thing, unlike the Korg ARP 2600 that was like only 400 units and sold out before I could sneeze. Or the Moog Model D reissue.

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