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PEDAL: STRYMON NITESKY or EVENTIDE BLACKHOLE?
Which one if you had to choose and why?
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All the Eventide plugins on iOS plus an audio interface for same price.
Yeah, I have the plug ins..I love them.
I don't want to run all hardware through the iPad due to wiring / restraints. So, wondering about a comparison for hardware FX units.
I am using it on semi modular synth.
I know I'm almost an NTS-1 'FanBoy' but that little box is just too fun.
Here's some random Youtuber messing with the 'Space' reverb and the built-in arpeggiator.

External audio can also be processed thru the effects...
(Plenty fo weird and free effects are available for download as well).
Plus it was 'fun' putting the damned thing together, me and my degrading eyesight and the tiny screws
Nitesky, while of questionable value for guitar, could be fun with your synth(s) since it has a sequencer and MIDI.
Eventide H9 Max would be a more versatile solution than either of the other two for synth usage, since it runs all the algos, not just the reverb ones, and has excellent MIDI implementation.
But if i had a Eurorack (hardware), I'd be looking more at the Expert Sleeper stuff for interfacing with miRack, since miRack has some pretty darn good sounding reverb modules like Plateau
@GovernorSilver Expert Sleepers + miRack + Eurorack = Absolute Win.
Honestly the Boss RV-6 has been rocking my world for reverb tones. Nice and cheap(er) as well.
If I were to get a modular setup (it's probably going to happen at some point...) I'd get the Strymon Magneto. I love that Big Sky "sheen" and I use mine an awful lot but tape delay, spring reverb with analog synths really does it for me. The El Capistan also sounds great with synths IMHO. I'm just not sure about the Night Sky though...
Problem for me is if I ever started with a real Eurorack, it would quickly turn into EuroCrack. Just look at what I've patched in miRack so far, I'm using more and more modules.
Mutable Instruments Clouds has been discontinued which has led to more than a handful of Clouds clones to choose from - Monsoon Clouds, Supercell Clouds, etc. Then there's Erbe-Verb, Audiodamage AEVerb 2, Qu-bit Aurora, EQD Afterneath, Magneto... the choices go on and on.
miRack sure taught me that there's something special about CV-modulated reverb, something you don't get by just plugging synth into a reverb pedal.
@GovernorSilver A successor to Clouds is coming. 😄 But yes, I'm quite happy with all the modules I don't need to buy because miRack exists.
Eventide. But if i had to choose, i would go with the audio ventris or the empress reverb
I'd go the night sky. Some really cool sounds coming out of that thing. Don't own one though and have only used the Blackhole desktop version.
Eventide H9
Not even a guitar player, and I can PROMISE you the NightSky would sound lovely on a guitar. Anything melodic, the NightSky will work. I got one and just a few hours of fooling around with it, I can say that with 100% confidence!
edit: Also 100% agree with the H9 and NTS-1 recommendation. Have the former, it's a beautiful thing.
I'm not saying it would not sound lovely on a guitar.
The questionable issues are not related to the sound itself but have more to do with logistics. Number one issue is how to make it work in a band with a live drummer and/or bass player, if the band music is not very, very, very tightly arranged - like where everybody is used to playing along with a sequencer or mechanical click of some sort. I don't claim to have played with cream of the crop, top-class session drummers, but I've played with enough drummers to understand just how difficult it is to play along with a click/sequencer when you as the drummer are so used to being the time generator.
This is why overly automated sounding pedals don't stick with guitarists: Adrenalinn, Boss Slicer, Moog MURF, etc.
Number two is the size of the pedal. Surely as a guitarist you have heard complaints about pedal size and how to fit a pedal onto a pedalboard.
Nightsky. Blackhole's played out and not nearly as versatile.
I can tell you as an actual owner of the NightSky that your first concern is immaterial. The "time" portion of the pedal is not really measured in a MIDI-clock type tightness. It has more to do with warping the pitch of an audio buffer over time. You don't get super tight window reverb times. That's not how it works. As well, with the sequencing portion, it does respond to a MIDI clock, but not stop/start signals (I've confirmed this with Strymon tech via-email already). It's not like a delay where if it's off sync with the drummer it sounds like crap.
And if you check my first post, I noted I was not a guitarist. I just know for a fact that this reverb will work with any melodic signal.
As to size, that's YMMV for everyone individually. If it's physically oversized for your pedalboard, it is what it is.
Lol, just enjoy your pedal. Who cares what guitarists think, amiright?
I have no idea where your hostility towards my responses is coming from. I said YMMV, which stands for "Your Milage May Vary". You aren't every guitar player and you don't speak on behalf of them.
And to make it clear, the NightSky only sounds automated with the Sequence mode. That's not the only mode of the pedal. It's very useful outside Sequence mode.
And to your point, who cares what someone who actually owns the device knows, amiright?
edit: As well, your forum example is purely anecdotal and hardly an objective basis.
And I now see you edited your post to remove most of what you said. Weak...
You dismissed everything I had to say, and were the first to be defensive about your point of view. Yes, i had some thoughts that I decided to edit out, after I decided that I didn't want to waste everyone's time.
So just enjoy your pedal and be happy.
I didn't dismiss every thing you had to say. If you go back and read my posts, I agreed with your H9 recommendation.
And actually you dismissed the entire pedal for a whole context of players. That is why I felt the need to comment in the first place. As I own the pedal and it's obvious there is value there tone-wise for a guitar player, I felt the need to rebut that dismissal.
And as I've used the pedal and gotten a good understanding of its functionality (the first thing I did was MIDI map it to an Evolution uc-33a, and a KMI QuNexus for note triggering), I understand its strengths and weaknesses.
I can assure you, the sequencing/MIDI aspect is not its party piece. It's the sound itself. As far as size of the pedal, yeah it's big but some may not be perturbed by that.
I actually think, sound-wise, this sounds excellent with a guitar without needing to get into real-time tweaking. That was the point I was trying to make.
I have a Boss RV-500 and love it. Their presets (many of which are rather lackluster, IMO) usually don't show the power of the pedal. You have to be willing to dig into it to really take advantage of all it can do.
Zoom MS series are excellent for reverbs (got the MS-100BT here with all IAPs that are now free).
Quite a few stripped-down Eventide clones included.
dba rooms, ac noises respira, pladask draume have all a lot of character.
gfi specular temps if you want beauty but beware that it always fills your mid-frequency spectrum
nightsky if you like to play with endless holds
blackhole if you don't mind "old" dsp algos
empress reverb if you want an all-rounder and still be happy with in 10 years