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Your Workflow?
Hey gang,
Still relatively new to music production, trying to get a workflow down that has at least some semblance of being “standard”. As it stands now, I’m bouncing around quite a lot from one software tool to the next both on iOS (iPad) and Mac. I’m fine with bouncing back and forth between the two, in fact I like the idea but I’m more trying to find a way to bridge the two which I’ve not found yet. Right now, I have projects on iOS and on the Mac but no crossover between them.
My hope is to hear some of the ways you folks work to help me to see what’s possible. Mainly to understand how you go from iOS to Mac or vice versa.
I think my ideal would be if I could start the creative process on my iPad and then flip to desktop to dig in the details but I’m also quite interested in doing it the other way around (starting on Mac, then working on iPad). I have a lot more effects and other tools on iOS vs Mac (I’ve only recently picked up the MacBook Pro in the past few months).
If it helps: I love Auxy Pro and Gadget on iOS but also really like Nanostudio 2 and iMaschine2 (I might be the only one who likes imaschine!). I also work in Cubasis 3 and think I own most of the solid tools available on iOS (Xequence 2, FL Studio, BM3,) but also more specialised but awesome tools like Samplr, Spacecraft, Fugue Machine, Lumbeat drummer apps - the list goes on and on re: the amazing tools on iOS... which makes me feel like there are some amazing creative potentials I’m missing by having everything so compartmentalised.
On the MacBook Pro, I have Ableton and Logic. I think I have tested nearly all the other DAWs and didn’t like them much at all, but if there’s some major synergy between one of these others and a companion app on iOS, maybe would take another look... maybe. Really like Ableton and Logic a lot though so I’d prefer to find some apps and workflow ideas on iOS that can place nice with one of these.
Is it safe to say that with Logic, it’s basically Garage Band on iOS and nothing else?
What apps are you guys using on iOS that end up in Ableton later on? How do you do it? Even if it’s not a totally seamless merging of the two, I’m definitely very interested in understanding how you incorporate your iOS tools with Mac (or desktop).
Thanks in advance for sharing any of your tips and tricks. Excited to hear about your workflows
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+1 here !
Still trying to get the best of both worlds. At the moment, i'm trying to record everything in iOS (AUM takes) and mix/edit with Ableton Live.
Still never use that workflow because i recently get the desk that i was looking for to do it.
Hope this works ..... i don't like iOS DAWs really, specially for editing audio and stuff like that. I guess in Ableton u will get more "creative" (?)
idk, that are my 2c in this topic. Hope we can get a workflow soon bro. Isn't getting easy to get .....
Here’s my workflow! I stay inside iOS from start to finish just because my laptop is fairly slow and I like the tactile feel of my iPad.
I start out by making a loop in BM3. I personally love creating in BM3, but when it comes to arranging, mixing, and mastering, it just doesn’t suite my workflow. So after I make a few loops of a few different sections of a song. I’ll export those audio tracks and bring them into Cubasis. I’ll then chop up the different sections and start arranging the song. I like Cubasis for that because it feels more like a typical DAW to me. But using Cubasis to create just doesn’t bring out the creativity in me. After arranging, I’ll start by adjusting the levels of the tracks, then I’ll add some effects to get the song sounding good. Then from there I’ll export the full song. I’ll bring the song into a new project in Cubasis and attempt to do some mastering (which I am not very good at quite yet). And then I’m done!
Another thing I also do is start creating the song in AUM. I LOVE AUM for creating. There’s so much flexibility with midi tools and such. So I’ll create a few loops (mostly melodies just because I have yet to find a good and quick way for me to easily do drums in AUM, especially something that has a few different sections), make some different variations of those loops. Then I’ll bring those loops into BM3, add drums to the different sections, export and bring into Cubasis where it’s the same process as I stated before.
I’m sure you could easily replace Cubasis for Ableton or Logic in the process too. Maybe upload the loops to Dropbox or Google Drive and bring them into you DAW on your Mac and work from there too.
But yeah that’s my process! I’ll sometimes change it up and try out another iOS DAW, or maybe make a loop in another app like Borderlands or Samplr, but I mostly just use AUM, BM3, and Cubasis.
Hope that helps a little!
I sketch small ideas on iOS and then finish in Ableton.
AUM, Drambo, Ns2, GB, ZB etc.
Workflow in Ableton is just dragging audio onto the timeline.
WORKFLOW: GYM / TREADMILL
iPhone ....either make music , write some lyrics, edit some samples, or listen to a long form podcast.
I wake up 4am everyday and make music from 400-730am and nightly 8-10pm. 7 days per week. For as long as I can remember.
Hybrid but mainly hardware, recorded and edited in iOS.
Several apps, but mainly apps as utilities or sketch ideas at gym.
Which apps are u using for edition ?
Interesting - this is the type of thing I’ve been curious about. Thanks!
Definitely does! I’m finding out that I just don’t use enough apps together is really the thing. I’ll mess around here, then mess around there, but I’m not using the tools together. Only been doing this about 18 months but really went into it full steam and spend nearly every waking moment that I’m not at work messing with this stuff. I think starting on iOS and flying solo with no real input from the outside world has been good in some ways but I think it probably really limited my understanding of how these things work together (getting old sucks!)
I totally get what you mean with Cubasis and BM3. Everytime I open up Cubasis, I think “man, this really does have a lot of great tools” - but I don’t think I’ve ever once created something in there that I liked. Odd because it’s actually very intuitive but there’s just some magic missing or something for me as well.
Yeah I’ve been messing around with iOS music creation for about 7 months but I spent quite a bit of time researching before and after I started. So I already had a laundry list of apps and kinda knew how they worked before I even got my iPad lol. And then of course I got obsessed with buying apps and now I have WAY too many which is nice to have the options, but also a little intimidating. But yeah there’s advantages and disadvantages to either approach! Blindly messing around with new stuff definitely is quite fun which is what I did when I got my first PC daw about 7 years ago. Definitely having that background really helped me grasp onto iOS a lot faster.
There are tons and tons of apps to use for music. It’s all about finding what you like to do and what works for you and seeing how they work together. AUM is a perfect workspace to play around with how apps can work together. There’s so many ways to do things with different synths, drum machines, midi apps, samplers, and so much more. Then once you get some loops that you like, you can export and throw them into Ableton or Cubasis and really flesh out that idea.
It’s a fun and endless world of exploration and creativity. I switched from PC to iOS because I felt myself making the same things over and over again on my computer. But working with iOS, there’s so many options and you really have the flexibility to to put the pieces together in a different way every time. I love it!
Only 6 hours of sleep each night?
I made a few tracks with gadget, kinda classic crossover style. Rough mix with FX in gadget, then export the stems dry into Auria Pro, and then final mix with Fabfilter FX.
What a great health/musician ethic! Your imagination must be strong after all your practice. I wish I was you. Seriously.
Depends on what you mean by "proper creation, " I suppose. As someone who's coming from an improvisational-guitar background, and who's more interested in experimenting with sound than in capturing it for posterity, I find AUM a much better fit for the way I like to make music, precisely because it doesn't tie me to a timeline or trigger any "recording light is on!" anxiety.
Personally, I like AUM because of the non linear approach (like @celtic_elk said) and how open and not cluttered everything feels. Even when you’re using 10-15 apps in it, everything still feels compact and clean. And I kinda get tired of all the drop downs and menu surfing in Cubasis. It’s not the worst thing in the world but it just makes me frustrated at times. AUM has it’s fair share of menus too but it doesn’t feel as restrictive and uncreative to me. Sure, it’s not for everyone. I guess I just get tired of creating on a timeline, so I like to use AUM to create a solid loop, then bring it into Cubasis and arrange and mix it from there. I don’t hate Cubasis, it just feels like a regular DAW to me, which is why I stepped away from my laptop and got an iPad. AUM feels different, it feels exciting, it makes me eager to create. But like I said, everyone has their own preferences. I just prefer AUM sometimes when it comes to making music.
I absolutely agree! Although I dont use AudioBus at all really. Mostly because I stick to AU and IAA (sometimes). AB doesn’t necessarily fit into my current workflow, even though it was one of the first utility apps I bought.
First a piece of paper with parts and chords. Then an drum arrangement with a lumbeat app. Different drum patterns, some that lead to next part et c. Lumbeat triggers custom samples in Yamaha montage. Then record drums via 8- 10 usb channels simultaniously into Auria pro. Then make a piano chords reference track and record other midi tracks around it. Import some percussion tracks from garageband, groovebox, drumjam. First i have to have a plan in my head. Hard for me is to make lyrics. It is old school and takes (too) much time. And the results are are old school and far from professional.... But Quality is getting better i think.
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Is this for real?
Havent been on ipad for a while but bought drum computer. Need to remap controllers. I just map controllers. Have to get back to mapping controllers. Controller work piling up. Will report back when on controller break.
iOS has come a long way. It used to be 70/30 in Favor of desktop. but now it's closer to 40/60 in favor of iOS since for me there isn't a correct DAW on iOS, I still make music in Reaper - which I have customized to work precisely how I desire as Reaper is so flexible, I'll never leave it.
Apart from an expected insane controller mapping ( rolls to keyboard ) I think I will use Drambo to sequence synths and if I do save patterns in Drumcomputer. I will either just noodle. I do have a mangled eye so the big buttons on drum computer with midi control appreciated. If I build. I could maybe add a drambo sampler to each channel and sample drum computer. So there would seem to be more control.
Jam in AUM with Atom or build tracks in NanoStudio. I usually start with chord progressions then add everything else. I have almost every quality synth there is to have an iOS, but end up using each one of them at some point because they all sound different. I usually let the sound used for my chords dictate the feeling of the song, whether it’s dance, soul or hip hop.
A nice quick way to get things going is open AUM, create four audio tracks and one midi track with of Atom. From there find a synth with nice pads (sometimes songs start from sound design/sound mangling sessions where I create a pad sound for the chords) for your chord progressions. Use Tonality or StepBud to trigger the four bars of chords recorded into Atom. After recording the chords, open a bass patch on audio track two and route it to the same notes in Atom. Then add another pad on audio track three, route it to Atom and apply an arpeggio.
Finally for track four add a drum sequence. Loop everything and press play. Viola! You now have the foundation for a song and all the tracks sound like they belong together. This method will allow you to build a song by adding variations, a hook, drops, breaks, bridges or whatever feels right. I hope this makes sense and is helpful.
Dunno. Seems like a lot of samplers.
I create in Cubasis 3. I often start on my iPhone and transition to my iPad. Once composed and arranged, I bounce the tracks to AUM where I do my mixing and mastering.
I love IMaschine 2 it just has little to no connectivity. Hasn’t been updated that much in awhile etc.but I still go back here and there for its great sounds and quick workflow.
AUM and 4 Atom instances, basically... also X2 sometimes. Then AUv3 midi apps a lot of Mozaic, Tonality, Rozeta, Bud Apps, etc... then AUv3 synths and drums, then M/S L/R, then FX, mix buses, FX, Master Bus, FX
Sometimes I take audio by Channel from AUM into Cubasis 2. Or by each mix bus, then audio to C2. Don’t have C3 yet.