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Best Bluetooth foot controller for iOS music apps?

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  • @Hmtx said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    the FBV: let’s say I don’t have a desktop or laptop (I actually don’t), is it not a plug and play kind of device? If I just connected it to my iPad via usb hub or Bluetooth, can I just freely program it inside an app like AUM or TH-U with the usual midi read pressing buttons way, or do I have to program it on desktop first or use some outside midi programming app? Just wondering how class compliant and plug and play it is as an older piece of gear that just happens to work outside of its intended function with line 6 stuff.

    Yeah if I remember when I got mine used, it is class-compliant and should be plug and play, but there’s no way of telling how it will be configured when you get it. If it already set up with all switches sending an on/off cc message then you’ll be good. But its likely that at the very least two of them will be set to bank changes... or any other huge range of possible configurations. It really needs to be set up with the free Line 6 app on Mac/PC so you aren’t just going in blind on iOS.

    Got it, makes sense. I assume factory reset is in the app and not on the device itself...

  • @steve99 said:

    @Hmtx said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    the FBV: let’s say I don’t have a desktop or laptop (I actually don’t), is it not a plug and play kind of device? If I just connected it to my iPad via usb hub or Bluetooth, can I just freely program it inside an app like AUM or TH-U with the usual midi read pressing buttons way, or do I have to program it on desktop first or use some outside midi programming app? Just wondering how class compliant and plug and play it is as an older piece of gear that just happens to work outside of its intended function with line 6 stuff.

    Yeah if I remember when I got mine used, it is class-compliant and should be plug and play, but there’s no way of telling how it will be configured when you get it. If it already set up with all switches sending an on/off cc message then you’ll be good. But its likely that at the very least two of them will be set to bank changes... or any other huge range of possible configurations. It really needs to be set up with the free Line 6 app on Mac/PC so you aren’t just going in blind on iOS.

    +1 to that. The bottom row are all PC by default I think, and the FX toggle CC. If you want momentary CC you'd have to use the editor if not already setup that way. Only once though, mine's not seen a computer for many years and it's user friendly.

    That’s good to hear. Just 30 min on my wife’s laptop and I’d be good to go. I have been shopping around for used FBVs for months, sellers finally getting reasonable on the asking price.

  • edited November 2020

    @wim said:

    @steve99 said:
    You've piqued my interest with the Pi though...

    $10 ($14 with pre-soldered headers). Edit three files in the /Boot partition, and you got yourself a USB/Bluetooth capable controller.

    If your interest is piqued:

    Thank you @wim - although I'd been avoiding that thread because I knew it would take me down... strapping in :)

    @puppychumful, sorry for hijacking your thread, all useful info I hope. It's been clogging up my brain for years, good to get it out. I would say on balance I'm now spending more time making music with controllers (foot and other) than tinkering around with them as I get closer to meeting my own needs / desires, always just one reconfigure away from the promised land...

  • @steve99 I'd be interested in getting the code. that controller looks great. The only downside is I'd have no idea what to do with code. What resources did you use to learn how to make it all happen?

  • edited November 2020

    @SimonSomeone said:
    @steve99 I'd be interested in getting the code. that controller looks great. The only downside is I'd have no idea what to do with code. What resources did you use to learn how to make it all happen?

    I'm getting a bit of Arduino PTSD just thinking about it :) It wasn't quick, here's some significant links. The Notes and Volts midi controller tutorial was a good intro to the coding (that's for a non bluetooth Arduino knobs and buttons controller). The Arduino itself isn't the cheapest, but I figured there'd be some expense in my education. As I said, the foot switch controller was really a bi-product of a desire to make knobs with kill switches for Turnado. CC on/off is at the easy end of things.

    This Adafruit tutorial I tried, but I never got this particular board to work (bluefruit nRF52). A good place to dip in though for the design and build. If I went back to this I might have more joy. It seems you need to reflash the boards with new firmware via a bluetooth iOS app, which I didn't know at the time.

    https://learn.adafruit.com/web-ble-midi/ble-midi-controller

    This was the real winner and the only example I could find for the Adafruit 32u4 working as a bluetooth midi device. I used this code (linked under the Youtube video) and then modified it (with Arduino forum help) to add knobs and send CCs rather than notes. Buttons / foot switches alone are relatively straightforward. This guy is a legend as far as I'm concerned, though I would of had little idea of what I was doing if I hadn't been through the initial Arduino learning in the Notes and Volts project (to which I did later successfully add bluetooth using a Bluefruit SPI friend connected to the Arduino, though that also stretched my brain to its limit).

    Ultimately there was a lot of trial and mercifully non destructive error. If you go forward let me know, I have all the source docs I found somewhere on my computer, I can sift the most useful with the benefit of hindsight. There's a couple of inspirational gurus on the Arduino midi controller front, but equally a lot of stuff (code) that doesn't seem to actually work. I often felt out on the perimeter trying to make it bluetooth. I expect the last 6 months may have seen developments, but I've not kept up. Good luck.

  • @steve99 Thanks for those links. I'll have a look and see how brave i am... Actually I wouldn't mind about it not being bluetooth, so that might simplify it a bit.

    Sticking it in a guitar looks like a fun idea.

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