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Luminescence At Dawn / Impressionism

After listening to a bunch of Debussy I set my sights on something different. Module American D, Cello, String Quartet and PureSynthPlatinum Rich Strings. There is still a world beyond SWAM.

Comments

  • Just bumping this one cause I think it particularly good.

  • You misspelled detumescence, Woody. (Haven't listened to the music yet). I just wanted to give you a heads up.

  • Whoa, this was fantastic. Thanks for bumping this.

  • edited December 2020

    This was lovely. The higher strings were especially heart wrenching. You are right, this was particularly good! I had it in an open tab since I saw you posted it this morning, and I finally got around to listening to it. Very real feeling and just gorgeous music.

  • McDMcD
    edited December 2020

    There was a world before
    SWAM...
    called
    SWIM
    and one yet to be called
    SWUM.

    In a parallel universe they hold for us...
    SWEM
    SWOM
    and sometimes...
    SWYM.

    It is written and now Posted to the ABF.

    Oh yeah. Nice piece.

    Oops. Not done yet. The gap in the middle made me think class was over.

    What are you using to add that wobble. I'm Swomming in a parallel universe with that wobbling.

    I'm un-Ravel-ing, Maurice.

  • @seonnthaproducer, thanks very much for listening and the praise.
    @mjcouche, thanks for taking the time to listen. Glad the strings hit home.

  • So nice...beautiful soft Debussy-like piece.

    Module Model D. Is it better than the original Module Mobile Grand IAP? The original IAP is 2GB but the new Model D is 1GB. This new one seems to sound better.

    Strings sound pretty decent as well. They sound a little off (unrealistic) in the very highest register though, but so lush in the mid-range.

  • @McM, IMO, the later American D is better than the previous Ivory based grand, IMO. Lots of nice presets, too.
    I realized those ultra high notes are not realistic, but I like the sonic zing it offers. I prefer iOS instruments that don’t limit the range according to the actual acoustic they are emulating. For me, I don't believe veracity in sound is the ultimate priority. If it suits my needs I don't care if it is realistic or not. Thanks for listening!

  • Very nice one indeed

  • @LinearLineman, I love it when you do these more contemporary pieces where, hmm, how should I say, you restrain from your jazz “habits”? I’ll be honest with you here Mike, I quit listening after the 4 minute mark. The first 4 minutes are perfect all by itself, and in my (again) honest opinion, I’d rather have had more of that.

    ^^^this is what I originally had typed up to post Mike, but I decided, that before I clicked on that “post comment” button, that maybe I should go and give the second half a chance. Here’s the thing (and again, this is just my honest opinion here!); it’s the transition. After the last few notes of the piano around 3:55ish there’s the reverb tail and some silence, then what seems like a string “sound check” between 4:01 and 4:03ish, and then it happens a couple more times before the strings really start coming in around 4:12. I think if you removed these little things (between say 4:00 and 4:11) and slowly started fading in the strings starting early, before the last piano notes end, maybe as early as 3:40 - 3:45, you’d have a 10/10 masterpiece here.

  • @LinearLineman
    Great sounds, nice ideas that mostly need more development and culling. I love a meander now and then but this one seemed particularly to wander from good idea to good idea without ever landing in one place long enough.

    I know you find the joy in those moments though, so this is just the impression (get it) it had on this listener.

  • edited December 2020

    @Intrepolicious, thanks so much for going back! It's great to get praise, but thoughtful observations are an important part of the experience, and, while personally relevant, also provide food for thought about music in general.

    Firstly, asking someone to listen to eight minutes of music these days is a difficulty in itself! I mean, often enough is enough. In my jazz cd days I was regularly bored with listening to myself after a couple of minutes... or seconds. I have gotten around this with iOS (desktop would be the same) by frequently repeating my improv and reframing it orchestrally. Let me ask if you were aware it was the same four minutes repeated exactly? So, there is regularly the need to hook the repeated section to the initial improvisation... sometimes I do it more successfully than others! Fading in the strings, in this case might indeed be better. I will take a look at it. I much appreciated the thoughtfulness and persistence to help me out, Ed. Thanks!

    @kinkujin, thanks for taking the time to write me your thoughts. This is somewhat of an extension of what I said above to Ed....

    I can totally understand what you are suggesting, but, for me, it is impossible to implement. All this stuff is in the moment, the free flow of musical feelings. There are musical themes that often appear, as they do in this one, that can go back thirty or forty years... so, in that respect, there are culled “ideas” present that are new iterations of an old musical thought... but that is more like an inside joke than what you are talking about.

    One thing I will say about strictly composed music (other than minimalists like Philip Glass); there are usually parts one likes better than others. Beethoven’s Symphs come to mind. Still, guys like Chopin often hold it together completely for fifteen minutes and the development seems flawless... tho critics of Fred would hold forth otherwise.

    I am certainly not comparing myself to these giants, and we are not even remotely in the same sandbox
    genre wise... nor in method of creation. I’m afraid, with me, you gotta take what you get... like life, with its ups and downs. It is fair to say we don’t listen to music for a revisitation of reality, but to experience something higher... something purified. All art is supposed to be that way. Even race car driving is like that, only the consequences of sloppiness are much more dire.

    Since barely no one will ever hear my music and it will all fade to nothingness when I am no longer here to post it, for me it is an incomparable creative rush. For the listener... well, I can see how that may be problematic.

    The one test I do use is if I, myself, can listen to a track repeatedly. Unless I can do that it does not fly. Oddly, I rarely discard a track. Such is the beauty of self forgiveness and self delusion. Thanks, Doug, for taking the energy to listen and comment. It surely is valid, there just isn’t much I can do about it with my “workflow”.🙏👊😘

    @GeoTony, the above should complete my description of how I can be so prolific.

    PS @kinkujin... Chopin, in fact, based his creations on improvisations, as I understand it. He may have even simply transcribed them. That’s genius for you.

  • @LinearLineman said:
    @Intrepolicious, thanks so much for going back! It's great to get praise, but thoughtful observations are an important part of the experience, and, while personally relevant, also provide food for thought about music in general.

    Firstly, asking someone to listen to eight minutes of music these days is a difficulty in itself! I mean, often enough is enough. In my jazz cd days I was regularly bored with listening to myself after a couple of minutes... or seconds. I have gotten around this with iOS (desktop would be the same) by frequently repeating my improv and reframing it orchestrally. Let me ask if you were aware it was the same four minutes repeated exactly? So, there is regularly the need to hook the repeated section to the initial improvisation... sometimes I do it more successfully than others! Fading in the strings, in this case might indeed be better. I will take a look at it. I much appreciated the thoughtfulness and persistence to help me out, Ed. Thanks!

    Don’t get me wrong, I mean, who am I to critique your work. You school all of us, every time you post a new piece. I know you understand, but I hope you take it as collaborative feedback from one fellow musician to another (if you don’t mind me comparing my Bumper Car to your Bentley lol), where I’d feel like I was doing you a great disservice if I didn’t share my thoughts on a track. It’s never your playing mind you, or your artistic vision, improvisational skills, or your musicianship in general, you’ve got all that on lock!

    I crave that kind of feedback when I post something. It might be just an idea, maybe a better way of doing one particular thing, or any kind of constructive criticism that will help not only the piece in question, but help me become a better musician, and even more; a better producer.

  • @intrepolicious, totally understood and no problem. There’s plenty to critique about my stuff and I welcome it if folks want to give it,

  • edited December 2020

    @Intrepolicious said:

    @LinearLineman said:
    @Intrepolicious, thanks so much for going back! It's great to get praise, but thoughtful observations are an important part of the experience, and, while personally relevant, also provide food for thought about music in general.

    Firstly, asking someone to listen to eight minutes of music these days is a difficulty in itself! I mean, often enough is enough. In my jazz cd days I was regularly bored with listening to myself after a couple of minutes... or seconds. I have gotten around this with iOS (desktop would be the same) by frequently repeating my improv and reframing it orchestrally. Let me ask if you were aware it was the same four minutes repeated exactly? So, there is regularly the need to hook the repeated section to the initial improvisation... sometimes I do it more successfully than others! Fading in the strings, in this case might indeed be better. I will take a look at it. I much appreciated the thoughtfulness and persistence to help me out, Ed. Thanks!

    Don’t get me wrong, I mean, who am I to critique your work. You school all of us, every time you post a new piece. I know you understand, but I hope you take it as collaborative feedback from one fellow musician to another (if you don’t mind me comparing my Bumper Car to your Bentley lol), where I’d feel like I was doing you a great disservice if I didn’t share my thoughts on a track. It’s never your playing mind you, or your artistic vision, improvisational skills, or your musicianship in general, you’ve got all that on lock!

    I crave that kind of feedback when I post something. It might be just an idea, maybe a better way of doing one particular thing, or any kind of constructive criticism that will help not only the piece in question, but help me become a better musician, and even more; a better producer.

    Same here @Intrepolicious
    I rarely offer my thoughts on someone’s music, as I know it can be tough to hear.

    People post their music for different reasons I think. Some want to just get it out there. Some want feedback. Others are just looking for positive reinforcement. I think knowing the person and their motivation behind posting it can help. Mike posts so much because he breathes music in and out - like oxygen to his being. To keep that all to himself might make him bust (please correct me if I’m wrong Mike). He also is a curious guy who values the conversation and dialog. That is a constant inspiration to me, and I’m not trying to blow wind up anyone’s kilt.

    Anyhow, I always enjoy most of what he posts and hope to be as productive one day.

  • @kinkujin, I think if I did not post here my output would be much less. There's a satisfying thwack when I publish on SoundCloud and then post it here. Completion. Then on to the next.

    I hope I don’t give the impression that I am averse to criticism. It’s just that an improvisationally based workflow is different from composition. It is just not thought out. Geniuses have more innate structure and development in their improvs... like Mozart or Chopin. Even a gifted and well trained classicist can do it, too. I am not on those levels. I have to look at my piano midi track and usually think how I can make this something worth listening to. Degree of success varies.

  • This is sad........ I mean beautiful type of sad! Why do I picture you in some smoke filled Speakeasy with a cigarette burning away in your ashtray as the romantics in the room fall more in love with you and themselves........

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