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Drum Perfect Tutorial Vid by ZenLizard.
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Excellent. Thanks for posting Morris and thanks @ZenLizard for the vid.
@zenlizard - "This video has been removed by the user". Will it be re-uploaded?
Yes. It should be up now:
I was asked to increase the volume of the voice-over and repost. I have a lot of room for improvement, I think.
Thanks. I've been ready to buy this app, but there haven't been any demos (other than Doug's) available to watch.
Great video @zenlizard! This one convinced me that this is THE drum app I need. Look forward to more tutorials from you. Well done!
Nice. Don't forget to touch on the two-handed, humanise and link features in the next one, they really make the patterns sound like a real drummer.
Nice video
Questions:
I counted over 100 taps for a relatively short piece. Is this indicative of its workflow?
Also, does this thing have midi, say if I wanted to use a MPD drum pad for note input?
I've been reading about screen lag, when will that be fixed?
Thanks
@WMWM The Dev says he is working on screen lag improvement.
@mgmg, ok thanks, do you own a copy of this? If so, can you answer the other question? If not, I understand.
If you're creating all the patterns from nothing, yes. If you already have a heap of general purpose patterns you can copy, merge and tweak, then no. It's quicker and easier than learning to play and record drums at a decent standard, with comparable results. It does take a bit of fiddling to get the level of detail and finesse DP can achieve, so if what you want is quick and easy 808 type drum machine parts, DP would probably be overkill.
Only MIDI sync so far.
By the way, there were a lot of "mis-taps" in my video which were not the fault of the app. In order to record the demo, my iPad was not at a the best angle, and I kept tapping below the actual targets. I was in a rush to get the video out with the update or I would have done it over with some adjustments. I will do my best to improve that and other production issues with future videos (lighting, alignment, sound quality, etc).
Don't beat yourself up, it was a good introduction.
Thanks for the info @paulB , now, can you share these "general purpose patterns", so for example, user A creates a pattern and shares it with users B and C who then import it into their set? Can these patterns then be merged into one?
Wasn't knocking your vid Lizzy.
Oh. I wasn't thinking that. I just wanted to make clear that all the extra tapping I was doing normally isn't necessary. For my first ever video, I'm pretty happy with it.
Zen, you did a great job!
@WMWM Yes, by transferring pattern files using iFunBox or similar. If custom kits are involved you'd need to share those too, along with the sample files.
I'm thinking it might be a cool idea to have a repository of downloadable user created patterns somewhere.
@PaulB: I've set up such repository at the DrumPerfect forum, for now only for patterns and songs using the standard kits:
http://drumperfect.nl/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=3
@Marinus, that is a big plus! but will you answer my pervious 3 questions?
Input via velocity sensitive drumpad seems ideal for a multilayerd sample player. Midi in?
What about full velocity switching? I have read that it has only two velocity ranges when random sample switching.
This is the most expensive drumming app I've seen (besides different drummers initial price). I probably use drum apps more than synths for a variety of reasons. I want to make sure this app is fully developed before I purchase at this price.
Edit: Thank you @PaulB
@Marinus said:
Lol. Would you believe I've never seen that forum?
@WMWM:
Midi-in will come, no ETA yet.
The current multi-sample approach seems a useful balance between performance and available resources in terms of cpu and memory. By the way, DrumPerfect was designed to run equally well on "older" iPad2/3 hardware.
The next update will have an even faster update in the grid view ;-) (already done)
John Walden did an extensive and informative review of the app at MusicAppBlog, also on the update: http://www.musicappblog.com/drumperfect-updated/
@PaulB: that's what I thought already ;-)
Thanks for the reply.
Midi in = sold
I have watched this app since it's inception and am patiently waiting.
Take care
Velocity switching - You get two configurable velocity levels (0-full) selected based on probability. These are your 'extremes' of variation. There is then a random selection of one of up to 4 samples per high or low selected velocity range (8 in total, but only 4 at a time). This provides finer variation which depends on the differences between the samples. Then there is the humanise function, which can introduce further slight variations in both velocity and timing. All that is just for one stick, the other stick can use another 8 totally different samples. Also, there is a low pass filter that can be applied to just the low velocity range samples. In practice, this is more than enough variation for a realistic result.
that sounded cool. The humanize vel/timing function, are you able to manipulate its pull? So to dial in how much humanize.
So if I follow your above post, basically, you can Radom between either no sound or full sound and fine tune either of those velocities levels with slight variations.
What about swing, most programs let you set a percentage, how is this achieved with DrumPerfect?
Humanise manipulation - Not currently, but it seems to work really well. It's subtle, but between that and the 2-handed limiter, it just makes it sound like a real player. For more extreme timing variation you can move individual strokes forward or backward in time with a slider.
Velocity level - Think of it as a max and a min velocity setting (although they can each be set anywhere between 0 and full). The probability ratio slider dictates the chance of one being used rather than the other eg. 30%:70%. The true randomness just affects the fine variation on top.
There is no swing setting per se, but since you can move strokes backwards and forwards it's not hard to select a series of strokes in your pattern and create your own swing feel. It's actually more versatile, since you can select whatever subsets of strokes you like and leave others alone. I used this technique in creating this pattern.
Thanks for taking your time @PaulB to explain. I knew there was a reason I like you
That clip was about as convincing as I've heard on ios.
Don't go all mushy on me now...
There's that stiff upper lip again.
Lol
As much as this pains me I'm gonna have to say it... @PaulB you were right (this time), DrumPerfect is a valuable drum app.
I have been coming up with some nice chops in a relatively short time. The video by ZenLizzard was helpful. There are a few things I would like to see implemented down the road but these are not faults but rather wishes.
Credit where credit is due. Now if you'll excuse me I need to go brush my teeth.
Want some soap?...