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Need a little help with hardware setup.
Hi,
Hope it's okay to post this here.
I recently got an ipad and plan on getting some hardware for it.
I think I have most of the setup sorted out but want to get a fx pedal or Korg NTS-1 to accompany a microfreak but am unsure where it goes in the chain and how it would be connected.
This is what I've put together so far.
Ipad - camera connection kit - powerd usb hub - UCA222 with rca cables - into the microfreak.
would this work and if so how could I add an effect module into the chain?
Thanks in advance,
Comments
The microFreak isn't an audio interface so the way you're
visualising the recording chain is the wrong way round.
Decide upon your effects pedal then report back.
The connections will work though.
Thanks for getting back to me, as stated I was thinking about the Korg NTS-1.
But if that wouldn’t work, do you have any suggestions for multi fx, I’m new to the hardware side of things, would a zoom multistomp work?
No worries.
The Korg NTS-1 looks fun.
A Zoom multi stomp would work.
There are several multi fx on the market,
the thing is what kind of sound are you after
and what's the price range?
That way we could hone down a suggestion for you.
As you're new to the hardware side of things.
A question.
Have you used effects processors before?
and what you could do before deciding
upon getting an effects processor is connect up your
micro freak to the iPad and start experimenting
with the effects that the iPad has to offer because
you could get a midi controller and use effects
that the iOS platform has to offer itself.
So you'll have a configuration that is
microFreak into Behringer UCA222 into iPad with
a midi controller mapped to effects on the iPad itself.
Which gives the tactile experience of
hardware effects with flexibility of choice.
Mainly dark ambient stuff, so I guess nice reverb and delays maybe some distortion if possible.
I’m just unsure what kind of connections I should be looking out for as I’m still not sure where the fx goes/plugs into?
Currently don’t want to spend more than $130ish.
No, I haven’t, I’m completely new, brand new to the hardware scene, I just want to have a different approach to music creation and have a little hardware setup to invest in, but I’m completely clueless, haha.
Okay, first things first.
Have you got your current equipment connected up and working?
and...
we all were clueless when we started...
A hardware effect unit could be inserted directly
in between the microFreak and the UCA222.
The connections you need will be dependant
upon the hardware unit you get.
6.5mm jacks are the norm.
So microFreak into "hardware unit" into UCA222 into iPad.
Are you using Audiobus 3, AUM or Apematrix? or all three?
The zoom multistomp that is light blue would probably serve you well with reverb and delays. I can’t remember the model number but it’s not the bass or guitar one. The bass is the ms60b and is maroon. I have it and like it a lot. A guitarist friend had the one I’m suggesting for you and it sounded excellent.
Ok, looked it up, it’s the ms-70cdr
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/zoom-ms-70cdr-multistomp-effects-pedal/l20286000000000?source=3WWRWXGG&gclid=Cj0KCQiA5bz-BRD-ARIsABjT4njuwQPFY_Nm7UgvJGX2GS-4jmPLr5USNKW9r2rxBy4Qo6TwK2cXhC8aAhC7EALw_wcB
Is this to run the micro freak through? If so, then output (or outputs if it’s stereo) of the micro freak into the zoom, outputs of the zoom into the behringer interface.
I think the micro freak can do usb directly into the iPad through the CM, can’t it? That wouldn’t let you run it into the zoom first though, but there’s tons of great iOS effects if that’s what you wanted to do. If it want hands on, then plug into the zoom and have at it! Although the pedals aren’t super hands on, it’s still a lot of menus, but there is some control and lots of preset slots. There is also now an editor for the computer for those.
If you intend to play the microfreak and record on the iPad, plug the microfeak into the FX unit, then plug the FX unit into the UCA 222 inputs.
If you add the NTS1, you will need to figure out how to use both at once.
One way is to run both into a mixer, and run the mixer into the UCA.
Or you could use both in mono, connecting one the UCA left input, the other to UCA right input.
Or if it possible, you may be able to connect either one into the input of the other, and have the signal pass through the second synth and appear at the output combined with the second synth’s output.
If you only need one synth at a time, just unplug the one you are currently using from the FX or UCA, and plug the other one in to use it when you need it.
Waiting for half the stuff in the mail still, just wanted to try and get a better understanding before it all got here.
Currently learning audiobus 3 but had also picked up cubasis 3, would it work with that app also?
Thank you for this! I saw the different models and was researching which would be the best.
Was only planing on getting the NTS for the effects send but think I'm just going to go with the multistomp, thanks for the suggestion!
So would it be something like this?:
Microfreak- TS to duel TS cable- Mulitstomp - duel TS to duel RCA Cable - UCA222 - iPad
You‘d have to be very, very lucky to find a useful piece of gear for that amount.
(some exceptions mentioned below)
Take the advice of @Gravitas and „do it in the (flat) box“.
With AUM‘s routing you can fake hardware handling really well and the quality is top notch.
You save the cabling (which becomes a significant expense) and patch or mixing system (which is likely when recording) and the manual handling of processors.
Myself I have only kept 3 external 19“ units in my rack for their signature sounds: Lexicon Vortex, Rocktron Intellifex and Yamaha SPX-90 (the latter is trash, the other two are really challenging to tweak)
But if you can‘t withstand (read the manuals before purchase), some Reverbs:
Lexicon Alex, no Midi but the most affordable one, Lexicon Reflex (extensive Midi control), Lexicon LXP-1, also with Midi.
All can be found for less than $150 with some patience.
The Vortex is a modulated delay, or rather the delay, but may suffer from worn out step dials, which were a custom production for Lexicon and are hard to replace.
It has an unusual DSP with some grit in it‘s sound. I got mine for $150 iirc, but twice that amount isn‘t unusual.
Timing (bpm) is entered by tapping only with no numerical feedback, all other functions are entered by turning the dials (digital pots) on the front.