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Which Contact microphone for SUBSTANTIA (Giorgio Sancristoforo)
I just bought the Christmas bundle from Giorgio Sancristoforo (amazing softwares for both Mac and something for windows too).
I’m really enjoying Substantia especially and I wanted to experiment using it with contact microphones.
Reading the manual you’ll need two microphones to get it work in stereo.
I am a totally noob in wired connections.
What should I buy (I like to buy some cheap microphones to start) and what adaptors do I need to connect the microphone to the interface I use with my Mac?
Please help me and maybe post amazon link. I really don’t know what cables to buy to record from microphones to the audio interface in stereo.
Thanks so much.
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The simplest contact microphone is a piezo disc. They're super cheap and can be connected to the microphone inputs of an audio interface - or a portable recorder with MIC inputs.
Since they're so cheap, it doesn't hurt to glue them to the material you like.
Ok thanks so much, but I don’t know if I understood correctly.
Is it ok if I will buy two of them?
Contatto microfono pickup piezo microfono pickup violino violoncello banjo ukulele mandolino chitarra microfono pickup https://www.amazon.it/dp/B07G3FKTPW/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_PYW1Fb73WTTVY
And how can connect them contemporary to my audio interface?
Do I need to buy also a mixer? Change my audio interface with a better one?
Which cables to I have to buy? A generic 6.35 jack to XLR?
Sorry for the thousands questions but I feel so lost😂😂😂
That interface is all you need, no mixer necessary. Do you have a soldering iron or know someone who does?
Then you could use these:
If not, maybe you can find a product like you've shown but with a connector that fits the M-Track inputs.
Have you tried GleetchDrone yet? Are the words kinda blurry to you? The others look ok.
No sorry just quadrivium and substantia until now and they are real magic
Substantia is really cool. Giorgio claims that it is worth it to buy decent piezo mics. I'm pretty sure he wrote a recommendation for a particular brand but can't remember what it is. With piezo mics, like nearly everything, you get what you pay for. When u buy a good semi acoustic guitar part of what you are paying for when u buy a good one is a good piezo mic. 😉
Chris from Audio Damage did an interesting video on the subject that should answer your questions. The mic you listed on Amazon should work just fine.
Interesting, I once supported a kickstarter called Mogees (?) that tried to do something very similar. They had these adhesive silicone pads so that you could actually reuse the microphones instead of sticking them to surfaces permanently. Might be a good idea to look for something similar...
One of the features was trying to separate different sounds the microscope picked up and making them trigger different samples. You stick it to a vase. Slap it with your open hand, kick. Tap it with ths finger, snare. You get the idea... Another app did something like this. Every sound triggers a sequencer. But like these kickstarter projects always go, there were big talks of things to come, it got funded and abandoned. An AUv3 With customization options would have been nice.
You could get their cheaper mic for around 20-40€. I'm nof sure they still sell them but maybe worth checking out, since they're probably somewhat in between the 2€ mics and the more expensive ones quality-wise...
This reminds me, I always wanted to stick one of them to different drums to see what reverby effects I could get when playing back and re-recording a sample this way...
I wonder what else could be done with contact mics on iOS. Something like CuSnP might add this resonating sound. Maybe something like Envolver could be used in conjunction with another app to trigger samples/progress a sequencer/...
Well, there’s always the brilliant Impaktor and its even more brilliant big brother Drambo.
FieldScaper also lends itself very well to this task.
Made my bought. They will arrive tomorrow. I’ll let you know if I will be able to do something 😂
Mogees was cool.
https://www.midi-store.com/Mogees-Sensor-p/sku43126.htm
I agree with Chris (AudioDamage) that the cheapest piezo ones are a PITA.
Some insulated adhesive system for attaching is needed, imo, and then the next problem is interference and handling noise.
The dense black rectangle block that comes with Mogees, along with its more substantial cable, helps protect it from electrical interference and handling noise.
The economical P-007 5-pack that Chris demos is the same as this one on Amazon?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZTBVKRD (TIMESETL)
This upgrade looks kind of nice:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYH4RRN (Luvay)
I thought he was referring to this one (5-pk)
https://amazon.com/dp/B07HVFTGTH/?coliid=I3AV4V31MJTWR4&colid=3D7LU5RC5A1V5&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it_im
@Crawlingwind I updated my post.
@mojozart
Cool, you've also owned one of these? I'm in the middle of moving and my music stuff is far away from where I'm now, so i can't just pick it up and check. What kind of MIDI output can it create?
EDIT: So this is how the MDDI input part works
@dobbs you're quoting from a description of the Mogees companion app, which was always kind of buggy and I never used. The sensor was and still is functional. I've used it directly with Impaktor, and also with Objeq if I recall correctly. FAC Envolver can generate MIDI. I guess Drambo would be the app of choice now.
I guess I should learn more about drambo. Just bought it this week and am very overwhelmed
Using the contact microphone input with a vocoder and using it in a percussive way might also give interesting results...
I have a guitar tuning clip as a piezo trigger based on this article by stretta. https://cycling74.com/tutorials/practical-max-1
I got the same tuning clip and used it to trigger impakter among other stuff.
I’ve tried many solutions with impaktor and by far the best one IMO is Roland PD 9. Most of others don’t have enough isolation which results in involuntary triggering and handling noises.
I'd plug-in a contact mic and open Drambo's Impaktors factory project.
@Charlesalbert
Thanks for the heads up about the bundle. I’ve used Berna 2 before - I bought v1, which for some odd reason, I prefer. I went for the bundle today - I like the approach the dev takes to his products, and his prices are amazingly fair. Will now look into buying contact mikes, as you are.
Just arrived. Now I’m waiting for the cables for the xlr port on my audio interface.
So glad I made it😂