Cubasis 3 audio editing questions

Jimmy

Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Jimmy

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tahiche

Audio editing and Cubasis don’t belong in the same sentence. iOS DAWs are terribly lacking in audio editing. Even such basic features as crossfades. I purchased Auria Pro for this very reason, Auria is way ahead in terms of audio editing. Have heard some things about MultiTrackStudio in editing, maybe n-track... but I haven’t tried those. If you are looking to work with audio I’d suggest a different daw.

GLacey

Not a DAW, but may worth checking the Ferrite Recording Studio https://www.wooji-juice.com/products/ferrite/

LFS

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

hi @Jimmy,

Thanks for your message.

To learn more about the Cubasis workflow, it might help to have a look at our Getting started with Cubasis tutorial. Of course, you will find lots of additional and detailed tutorials about various other Cubasis topics on the web.

Cubasis does not include dedicated comping features, but normally should work fine for your given cases.
Fade ins/outs are available via event handles, plus the app features full editable automation. Alongside, track freeze and/or mixdown can be used to combine edited audio parts into a single event.

But I'd suggest to check out other users' feedbacks here to make the decision, if Cubasis is the right app for you.

Hope that helps!

Best,
Lars

richardyot

You can't crossfade in Cubasis, which kind of kills it stone dead for any serious audio editing, especially if you're merging separate parts for a vocal comp. It's actually a rather baffling omission, which I would have expected to see in v1 of the app back in 2013.

You can fade in and out though, and the track grouping works well.

Personally I do all my vocal tracking and comping in Auria Pro, and it works pretty well for that. I generally have a dedicated project for vocal tracking and comping, and then export the comped vocals into the actual mix project, so it would be perfectly feasible to use both apps side-by-side.

Jimmy

Thank you everyone for the info. I currently have Cubasis 2. All DAWS on iPad are wonderful tools, but looks like they are very good at capturing ideas, but a lot of extra work to finish them. For my situation, it looks like i am better off recording/capturing ideas on iPad and then transferring these projects to a full fledged DAW to my Mac to finish it off more easily. Either Cubasis/Cubase combo or Garageband(iPad)/Logic is the way to go. Thanks again for confirming audio editing state on Cubasis 3 and other iPad DAWS. Cheers.

AndyPawlak

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

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AndyPawlak

Hey tja
Just make sure both parts are clean and volumes are matched and fade both parts that meet while looping till it’s perfect.
I do all my pianos like that. I use the same technique in Cubase. There really is no difference between the two in this sense.
Of course sometimes you would then need to “glue” them with a bit of compression and a very light reverb to put them in the same place.

Cubasis 3 is amazing compared to what was available years ago.
Cheers:)

AndyPawlak

https://open.spotify.com/track/1Hh7D0QrMwJ0LGgoitH0QO?si=KQPvByK_QGy2JJpcqBPxT

This entire Album was edited in Cubasis 2

richardyot

For vocal comping crossfades are essential.

AndyPawlak

@richardyot said:
For vocal comping crossfades are essential.

Not really , this vocal was comped in cubasis 2 with no cross fades.

https://open.spotify.com/track/1fyc4NIYh6ILhHBqBpTNEq?si=DSiM5obeS0SrYWMu4917ZA

NoiseHorse

I totally love Cubasis 3 100%, but n-Track Pro does have crossfades...

Jimmy

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

I guess if I leave the different parts on different tracks and use the handles to do fade in and fade out it is kind of like a Crossfade. Could it work that way?

Rodolfo

@Jimmy said:

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

I guess if I leave the different parts on different tracks and use the handles to do fade in and fade out it is kind of like a Crossfade. Could it work that way?

Yes, that’s a way of doing a crossfade in Cubasis.
Additionally, when you overlap two audio clips on the same track you get the sound of both at the same time on the overlapped region, so if you do a fade out on the first one and a fade in on the second one on that region the result is kind a of a basic crossfade.

Jimmy

@Rodolfo said:

@Jimmy said:

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

I guess if I leave the different parts on different tracks and use the handles to do fade in and fade out it is kind of like a Crossfade. Could it work that way?

Yes, that’s a way of doing a crossfade in Cubasis.
Additionally, when you overlap two audio clips on the same track you get the sound of both at the same time on the overlapped region, so if you do a fade out on the first one and a fade in on the second one on that region the result is kind a of a basic crossfade.

Thank you

AndyPawlak

@Jimmy said:

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

I guess if I leave the different parts on different tracks and use the handles to do fade in and fade out it is kind of like a Crossfade. Could it work that way?

Yes using two tracks works great with fades out and in of each part , obviously any extra comp or reverb has to be identical on each track. Il use that method if the the two parts touch. But if you zoom all the way out and there is even the smallest piece of silence , a single track works fine if you put a fade out and in on each part ,
If it just won’t won’t work il bring the second sample to the track below, so il always have two tracks open and use both when needed.
I hope that makes sense.
All the best

Jimmy

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:

@AndyPawlak said:

@Jimmy said:
Before I would buy I would like to know how is audio editing and Cubasis 3 if somebody could chime in please.

I usually like to record vocals, backing vocals, acoustic guitar, audio from bias fx2 etc.

Of course mixing this all up with midi and synths.

My specific questions: how is audio comping in Cubasis3?
If I record vocals for example on three different tracks and cut them up and drag them to one track, using the good parts, will I have options for Crossfades between audio regions for example?

How about fade in and fade out on an audio part?

How well does grouping tracks for one fader work now?

Thanks guys.

Hey Jimmy ,
Audio editing on Cubasis 3 is perfectly fine. Particularly now as it is sample accurate in the sample edit window
I use it every day . Yea there is no cross fades but so what. You can easily work around it.
Don’t be put off , it’s excellent now.
Cheers

I guess if I leave the different parts on different tracks and use the handles to do fade in and fade out it is kind of like a Crossfade. Could it work that way?

Yes using two tracks works great with fades out and in of each part , obviously any extra comp or reverb has to be identical on each track. Il use that method if the the two parts touch. But if you zoom all the way out and there is even the smallest piece of silence , a single track works fine if you put a fade out and in on each part ,
If it just won’t won’t work il bring the second sample to the track below, so il always have two tracks open and use both when needed.
I hope that makes sense.
All the best

Yes makes sense. Thanks. This is an acceptable work around for comping vocals. Little more work and not as elegant but ok.

GLacey

@AndyPawlak said:

Yes using two tracks works great with fades out and in of each part , obviously any extra comp or reverb has to be identical on each track. Il use that method if the the two parts touch. But if you zoom all the way out and there is even the smallest piece of silence , a single track works fine if you put a fade out and in on each part ,
If it just won’t won’t work il bring the second sample to the track below, so il always have two tracks open and use both when needed.
I hope that makes sense.
All the best

You can group multiple audio tracks and apply the effects only for the group track.

AndyPawlak

@GLacey said:

@AndyPawlak said:

Yes using two tracks works great with fades out and in of each part , obviously any extra comp or reverb has to be identical on each track. Il use that method if the the two parts touch. But if you zoom all the way out and there is even the smallest piece of silence , a single track works fine if you put a fade out and in on each part ,
If it just won’t won’t work il bring the second sample to the track below, so il always have two tracks open and use both when needed.
I hope that makes sense.
All the best

You can group multiple audio tracks and apply the effects only for the group track.

Good idea .