miRack and Drambo how are they living together?

eross

I’m trying to use miRack sequencers to control a drambo instrument. but I can’t figure out how to set it up. do i set it up as a midi AU? do i send midi out of miRack, or control voltage since that’s what drambo uses to communicate? between modules? i think? do i need to even involve midi if i’m working in the drambo ecosystem with miRack?

eross

I thought i saw another thread about miRack and drambo working together but i can re-find it

rs2000

NoiseFloored

@eross you can actually use both approaches, sending CV (gate, continuous) to miRack’s audio out, or with MIDI, as @rs2000 shows above

eross

@NoiseFloored said:
@eross you can actually use both approaches, sending CV (gate, continuous) to miRack’s audio out, or with MIDI, as @rs2000 shows above

oh this is awesome thanks

NoiseFloored

@eross by the way, you need to split the stereo signal, same for mirack 16-channel:

auxmux

The fact we can do audio rates in Drambo is awesome!

eross

@NoiseFloored said:
@eross by the way, you need to split the stereo signal, same for mirack 16-channel:

ohh good note i didn’t think of that. thanks

aleyas

I’m hoping mult-bus audio input will get fixed in Drambo soon. It’d be really great to send up to 16 channels of CV and audio into mirack

auxmux

@aleyas said:
I’m hoping mult-bus audio input will get fixed in Drambo soon. It’d be really great to send up to 16 channels of CV and audio into mirack

Yes!!!!!! Please.

pedro

@NoiseFloored said:
@eross you can actually use both approaches, sending CV (gate, continuous) to miRack’s audio out, or with MIDI, as @rs2000 shows above

Am I right to assume, if you send CV as a modulating signal, it will be continuous, while if you use MIDI CC in the middle, it will be stepped 0-127?

Also, when sending CV from mirack to drambo, isn’t there some scaling I need to apply?

Richtowns

Nice to be able to use audio signals as modulation. I hadn’t thought of that. Great next-level tip @NoiseFloored

Michael_R_Grant

Has anyone made a video tutorial for using Mirack with Drambo yet?

Gravitas

MiRack and dRambo are living together quite nicely.

MiRack hosted in dRambo is my preference.
I'm used to the sequencer in dRambo and
I am using MiRack for it's oscillators and
it's physical modelling modules at the moment.

Seems to be a good combination.

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NoiseFloored

@pedro said:

@NoiseFloored said:
@eross you can actually use both approaches, sending CV (gate, continuous) to miRack’s audio out, or with MIDI, as @rs2000 shows above

Am I right to assume, if you send CV as a modulating signal, it will be continuous, while if you use MIDI CC in the middle, it will be stepped 0-127?

That's correct, if you pass CV directly to another AU param. You have to consider though that developers usually add MIDI CC interpolation (not sure if it's the right word) logic for parameters that would otherwise be badly affected by stepping, like filter cutoff, so the difference may not be as noticeable as one would expect.

Also, when sending CV from mirack to drambo, isn’t there some scaling I need to apply?

Yep, the Oscilloscope module is your friend if you want to get a sense of the different levels. I haven't tried note CV yet though, which may require more tinkering (scale + offset). In that case using miRack's MIDI out is probably the better choice anyway, but I'm a big nerd so I may give the CV route a try today.

NoiseFloored

@Michael_R_Grant said:
Has anyone made a video tutorial for using Mirack with Drambo yet?

Is there anything specific you'd like to see? I could do something quick

@Richtowns said:
Nice to be able to use audio signals as modulation. I hadn’t thought of that. Great next-level tip @NoiseFloored

Honestly I don't think it's that useful, but as I stated above I get all nerdy about this stuff
For practical purposes I'd probably stick with audio processing for miRack's awesome delays (big fan of the BBD one), oscillators and filters and just use MIDI output for its sequencers.

auxmux

Can someone explain scale offset when it comes to note CV?

My use case is using an Expert Sleepers ES-9 to send v/oct cv to a hardware modular oscillator via miRack. miRack doesn't include Silent Way from Expert Sleepers which is needed to calibrate CV for notes. Could I use Drambo as an audio fx to convert miRack CV output in a similar way to Silent Way?

NoiseFloored

@auxmux said:
Can someone explain scale offset when it comes to note CV?

My use case is using an Expert Sleepers ES-9 to send v/oct cv to a hardware modular oscillator via miRack. miRack doesn't include Silent Way from Expert Sleepers which is needed to calibrate CV for notes. Could I use Drambo as an audio fx to convert miRack CV output in a similar way to Silent Way?

You can always scale and offset within Drambo alone, using the Add and Multiply modules paired with a couple of fixed CVs like those generated by a Slider module . You'd have to trigger two notes, say, 3 octaves apart and adjust both sliders until they sound right (the slider for multiply until the notes do sound 3 octaves apart and the slider for add until they match the corresponding notes). The problem right now is that Drambo standalone only provides access to one stereo pair. If you're routing from Drambo AU multi-out through AUM, for instance, this should just work.

Edit: actually Offset and Scale modules are probably better options

auxmux

@NoiseFloored said:

@auxmux said:
Can someone explain scale offset when it comes to note CV?

My use case is using an Expert Sleepers ES-9 to send v/oct cv to a hardware modular oscillator via miRack. miRack doesn't include Silent Way from Expert Sleepers which is needed to calibrate CV for notes. Could I use Drambo as an audio fx to convert miRack CV output in a similar way to Silent Way?

You can always scale and offset within Drambo alone, using the Add and Multiply modules paired with a couple of fixed CVs like those generated by a Slider module . You'd have to trigger two notes, say, 3 octaves apart and adjust both sliders until they sound right (the slider for multiply until the notes do sound 3 octaves apart and the slider for add until they match the corresponding notes). The problem right now is that Drambo standalone only provides access to one stereo pair. If you're routing from Drambo AU multi-out through AUM, for instance, this should just work.

Edit: actually Offset and Scale modules are probably better options

Thanks! I'll give that a try.

pedro

@NoiseFloored said:

Thanks, I’m on vacation for this next week, and I’m hoping to have some time to explore mirack/drambo scenarios.
Oh, and merry x-mas everyone!

orchid

I only spent 5 minutes on this so I may be missing something, but I just used mirack as a module in Drambo’s host mode and it worked flawlessly. I was able to get a sequence out of mirack (Ions module) via audio out with no scaling or offset. I used Lazy Susan for the trigger outs.

Pretty huge now that 16-out mirack is supported… 🤯

pedro

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but it's been a while, what's the status? I want to host mirack inside drambo and use for instance NYSTHI SoyModelSOU in mirack, outputing CV to drambo to control synths, etc. How do I do that? I'm not so familiar with mirack, unfortunatelly, so that's where most my problems lie.

ElectroHead

It's explained with words and screenshots in this thread!

orchid

@ElectroHead said:
It's explained with words and screenshots in this thread!

😂

pedro

@ElectroHead said:
It's explained with words and screenshots in this thread!

Yeah I realized how dumb my question was after posting. There’s even some of my own comments above.

Anyway, it’s working a treat, thanks