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Geoshred swam sax demo.

Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

Comments

  • Beautiful, mate! When I read the title, it was instaclick
    Knew you would drop something awesome

  • Thanks a lot @senhorlampada !
    Merry christman man!
    Flo

  • Sounds great. Are you playing with your guitar or on screen?

  • Yes this is hot

  • @flo26 said:
    Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

    Sounds awesome.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    Sounds great. Are you playing with your guitar or on screen?

    Thanks!
    I play on screen.

    @mjcouche said:
    Yes this is hot

    Thanks a lot!

    @AnalogCortex said:

    @flo26 said:
    Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

    Sounds awesome.

    Thanks a lot!
    Merry christmas everyone!
    Flo

  • @flo26 , as a fellow glass player, very impressive. Fitted the backing track very well.

  • Nice finger work @flo. A lovely instrument, at an amazing price from Jordan and the geo kids. Celo is on my wish list now. Is this the best instrument on iOS? he asks rhetorically.

  • I can see that you don't bother to "call up" a fret board layout that matches the key of your
    tune. For beginners it helps to see the root and scale notes in the highlighted boxes.

    @flo26 is no beginner to the fret board and doesn't need to use the visual aids.

    In the case the layout is for C major with all the C's in indicated with a brown outline.
    The backing track is an F blues. So, an F pentatonic layout might help a beginner chose
    more notes that seem to fit. But it does require a little menu diving to set up the root and
    the scale options.

    I give my wife a layout and suggest she just hit the outlined boxes and she'll play for a long time because everything sounds right. Those visual clues are helpful to avoid the sour notes
    that are outside the tunes tonality.

    The blues offers a lot of options for playing around with the scale since it expects you to bend between major and minor 3rds and work that #4 blue note with slides up to the 5th or
    down to the 4th as needed to fit the chord progression. In this example the blue notes are the Ab and the B natural. When @flo26 lands on either of them he will often slide to the closest scale tones: A, Bb or C.

  • This is nothing to do with your demo or playing, but I have to say...

    As an actual sax player, the sound of this makes me cringe. I really don't think it sounds any better than sax patches on any keyboard or sound library. Its obviously a VERY difficult instrument to synthesise. I think the joy of electronic music is in creating new sounds that aren't meant to be exactly like any physical instrument.

    Obviously lots of folk disagree, and there's clearly a market for this. But at least I'm not getting replaced any time soon in any serious scenario...

  • On the other hand, I have heard plenty of real sax players who make me cringe...

  • McDMcD
    edited December 2020

    @stalkpiece said:
    As an actual sax player, the sound of this makes me cringe.

    If you dedicate yourself to learning an instrument you're going to have a fined tuned sense of that instrument. The GeoShred surface gives us control of pitch, vibrato and attack and SWAM's modeling is a lot better than any other Sax I have available on my iPad.

    I'll never be able to afford a real sax player but I can now "play one on TV".

    Not to criticize this particular performance but it has a lot of areas where the illusion doesn't hold up but with practice it can get pretty close to fooling most of us but probably not a real player.

    With time and a valid reason to do so, I'm sure @flo26 could slip one past most audiences on a recording... and as a drummer that saw my job go away with the power of automation I expect a lot of musicians to have their phones stop ringing. It's always the lure of the economic advantage that kills the need for a true craftsman. I don't see a way to put that genie back in the bottle. It's out and for music producers it's a gift and for musicians that need more studio work it's a disease.

    2 (close to) teenage siblings made an 8 Grammy Award winning album in a bedroom.

    I can write and record film music on my iPad that's close enough.

    And the GeoShred SWAM SAX is on sale for $3 for the Holiday.

  • @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    On the other hand, I have heard plenty of real sax players who make me cringe...

    Donald Fagen decided to "play a sax solo" on a Steely Dan (or maybe a Donald Fagen) record
    that never should have gotten released. As a production team they had the highest standards for soloists and usually got Michael Breaker or Phil Woods caliber players but
    I think the fact that he could do it himself and have that connection let him lower his standards.

    Then Walter Becker produced his first solo album and used nothing but drum machines.
    Most people wouldn't notice but it made me cringe. The famous pocket of the Steely Dan
    drummers was just not there.

  • @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    On the other hand, I have heard plenty of real sax players who make me cringe...

    So true.

  • is there a baritone sax included?

  • Amazing....

  • @eross said:
    is there a baritone sax included?

    It's just the Tenor. SWAM tends to create models per instrument model.
    We're still waiting to find out what they'll want for their 5 brass instruments
    that will run under their product line for IOS users.

  • It doesn’t go low enough for baritone, but it can do quite a nice soprano.

  • @flo26 said:
    Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

    Did you search youtube for backing tracks with the chords displayed? I’ve never done that before, great idea.

  • @flo26 Also this sounds so good man, well done.

  • edited December 2020

    @stalkpiece said:
    This is nothing to do with your demo or playing, but I have to say...

    As an actual sax player, the sound of this makes me cringe.

    On the old windcontroller group, they called your reaction "Home Instrument Bias" - HIB. Users on that group coming from trumpet were fine with sax sounds. Users coming from sax were fine with trumpet sounds. Guess what sounds the trumpet players liked the least... and the sax players....

    Fiddle is one of the instruments that i play. I don't comment on GeoViolin or GeoCello (studied cello for a bit) demos, because of my own HIB - most of the time. If i do say something, it's because I like the overall arrangement/production, not because of the individual instrument.

  • Very Saxy, Flo.

    @stalkpiece, I have to agree with you... tho, the OP does say he dashed it off, so fine tuning the sound might improve it. BUT, to be a grinch on today of all days, the SWAM sounds do not draw me back. Of course I don’t play on the glass, so that makes a big difference.

    I’ve given up on trying to tell myself that breath and string instruments have arrived on iOS. Even our beloved Ravenscroft doesn’t stand as a solo instrument. It lacks detail, especially in the bass. Believe me, I am grateful to have all these instruments to utilize, but I have stopped yearning to “recreate” something
    and started focusing on creating something. Maybe my recent electronic foray to the planets has redirected me, or maybe it’s just the yearning for the new. iOS excels in synth soundmaking. Maybe it will be better (for me) to concentrate on that aspect.

    All that being said, I’ll probably go for a SWAM Flugelhorn when it’s released. After all, they are just sounds, and, as such, are all valid.

  • @flo26 said:
    Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

    Being a guitarist rather than a saxophonist, I think your quick demo sounds pretty convincing, and your choice of notes playing through the changes is great too, so thank you. I makes a change to hear someone actually making an effort to solo through the changes convincingly and with good feel, rather than totally ruin a Jazz standard as many such demos have done.
    Merry Christmas to you and everyone here.
    David

  • @DSCB57 said:

    @flo26 said:
    Quickly done,not perfect,but it’s a good and fun app!

    Being a guitarist rather than a saxophonist, I think your quick demo sounds pretty convincing, and your choice of notes playing through the changes is great too, so thank you. I makes a change to hear someone actually making an effort to solo through the changes convincingly and with good feel, rather than totally ruin a Jazz standard as many such demos have done.
    Merry Christmas to you and everyone here.
    David

    Thanks for your kind words.
    Merry christmas to everyone.
    Flo

  • Pretty damned good sax for iPad....

  • Just lovely Flo ... great set of ears you've got. Fingers aren't bad either.

    Many thanks for your inspirational playing through the year ... you've given me some lovely music. And haven't we needed it.

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