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Innovative midi controllers in ios - suggestions please
I would like to know about innovative midi controllers out there in ios.
Some of the outstanding ones I have used are - Thumbjam, Animoog, SoundPrism, Changeling, Navichord, Gestrument, MusixPro, Fugue machine, GeoShred, KB-1.
I hope there is an app similar to Changeling that will enable you to change parameters like scale, key, chords, chord voicing, swing etc. at runtime while playing the melody...anybody knows??
Thanks in advance.
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Mozaic
I’ve heard PolyHarp mentioned more in the last two days that I had to try it out. Just got it but haven’t delved in too much yet. May want to check it out. iPad only.
Let me clarify, what I want is a UI uncluttered and focused only on scales, key, chords, arps and leads and be able to change any of these parameters while performing live, by a "single click" - so i could be playing a melody line on scale A and be able to seamlessly move to another scale B or a different key or any combinations of these parameters and still perform live.
So all changes needs to be accomplished with a single click and not using sliders, arrows etc.
Do you think Mozaic can do this?
Thank you, looks interesting at least features I have not seen anywhere - looks like you can make microtonal chords.
Touchscaper is one that should be on your list; there are some good youtube videos showing how it works.
A huge thanks for this. Really innovative and deep, close to what I want to do, but I need a way to change scales/keys on the fly.
If Touchscaper is close but can't change scales the way you want, seems like it should be possible to feed Touchscaper's midi thru some other utility that does the transposing for you (Rozeta? Mozaic plugin?). Then you would use that utility to change the scale.
TC-Data
Using midi auv3 plugins will kill my workflow, as I want to stay in one UI which is only focused to what I want and perform without the distraction of opening other plugins and changing configuration.
My ideal UI will be user configurable, for example, I can pick any rows or combinations of below:
row 1 - keys
row 2 - scales used frequently - this can be configured from an available bank of scales.
row 3 to row n - all chords available from a scale - in a 3 row example, harmonically relevant chords will be in the center, and
moving to edges in any direction will reduce the relevance.
row 6 - only keys from the "scale + key" combination picked above. Configurable as normal keyboard or like the GeoShred
format
The above UI will be dedicated only for live performance, it is easy to just switch between any parameter by a single click, while still performing.
Hope u can code sounds great.
Wish i knew swift /ios programming
Kb-1 can be easily updated to achieve this as they already provide a set of keys for chords and another set for melody, but configuration is not single step and buried under settings.
You could simply create that by placing a few aub3 keyboards/scale changers/chord apps above each other, no?
(chordBro, scaleBro, similar apps)...
If you scale the AU windows and place them above each other you don't even have to exit/close/bring up any windows?
Even with that setup, issue is at the point of picking a different key, you will have to go to app X and scroll through using arrows, or for choosing a scale / chord you will need to go to app Y and scroll / pick from a list.
I don't know of an app that has in its main UI a set of buttons / cells which can be configured to keys / scales etc.
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Mozaic could be configured in this way. Also, you could connect a phone or hardware controller to your ipad that you could set up as the interface to the scale/key utility app. If you know beforehand what sequence of scales/keys you're going to be going through, you could even configure it all to happen with a single button-press, each press would advance to the next scale/key. Potentially you could even connect up Touchscaper so some action within Touchscaper triggers the change in the scale/key utility app. Lots of different things could be done.
The whole idea is not not be restricted into any key/scale or having preconceived key/scale - so when you start you have as many keys, scales, chords (based on the selected key-scale) possible that can fit into a single page.
then you explore each variations based different scales, keys, chords , harmonic relevance - to arrive at an idea / mood / progression that you like based on "how it sounds" and relevant to the ambience you want to create.
With external iphone setup, we will still be limited by the app running on iphone, unless it provides an UI easily configurable by a "single button- press".
You seem to be nixing options when you don't really understand how they would work. The iphone app could simply be an array of pads/buttons that sends a signal to Mozaic running on the ipad to switch scales/keys. You never need to see or touch Mozaic (other than to start it up), you simply trigger changes by pressing a button on the phone.
There are other options. For example, you could configure an external keyboard, or just a keyboard on an iphone, or on your ipad, so that when you press 'C' it shifts everything to the key of C, Press 'D' and it shifts everything into key of 'D'. More likely, you'd want to set up two- or three-key sequences, e.g., pressing 'C' followed by 'Eb' could shift everything to C minor, 'D' followed by 'F#' could shift to D-major. In this case the keyboard isn't really doing anything; it's just sending the note sequence to an app that's running behind the scenes (e.g., Mozaic), which is transposing whatever is fed to it by your main app (e.g., Touchscaper).
You need to use your imagination a little here, there are tools to set this up almost any way you can imagine. What interface to scale/key changing do you want? Flesh out what it would look like and how it would work. Likely there are apps out there that can come very close, might require a little configuration and/or building, but once built it could operate behind the scenes.
@hes , I am not sure I properly conveyed my requirement.
As you said there could be a way to do this by using midi auv3 or external midi devices, but they are unintuitive and intrusive to my workflow.
I understand it is easy to switch keys using any keyboard app, but what about scales? I have not seen any apps that labels keys with scale names, they are always under some config setting. I don't want to be calculating the key combinations to press to get to a key/scale, when my brain is working on the musical idea. I want least effort / intuitive / non-intrusive way to switch the parameters, while the focus is on the musical idea.
I just quickly created a basic template in paint - this is a starting point for my requirement.
So for the chord palete, the lighter shades will be harmonically related to the scale / key selected. As you go to darker shades you move to harmonically dissonant chords.
@bobpadUser That's more helpful. As far as the first two rows in your image, those could certainly be a set of pads in Mozaic, with the pads labeled as in your picture, and code behind them transposing a given input to those keys/scales.
Regarding what you call the 'chord palette', seems like that's an entirely different function, which I would have assumed would be part of the main app (e.g., Touchscaper, or others). That chord palette functionality, as I understand it, has nothing to do with key/scale transposition. I had assumed you would choose the chords you wanted in your main app (which could in fact be an entirely dissonant chord, have no tones in main app's key/scale) and then have the chosen chords from the main app transposed in the helper app (where they would be exactly as harmonious or dissonant to the new key/scale as they were to the "base" key/scale in the main app).
I believe some of the "chord" apps (e.g., Navichord, Chordmaps 2) are in fact similar to the chord palette you describe, and do transposition as well. But they don't tend to have the innovative control surfaces that are geared towards creating an entire composition, like Touchscaper or Gestrument.
@hes Thanks for the help, I will test a setup using Touchscaper and the scalebud plugin and see if this can be done.
Thanks.
Thanks.