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The AU sampler market seems somewhat thin
Currently I'm using SunVox for my AU sampler. I went to find something a little easier to set up and work with, couldn't find any.
I was specifically looking for one with the following criteria:
- Easy to load multiple user samples and manage user sample library
- Adjustable crossfades when looping to avoid clicks
- Pad based sample triggering (as opposed to chromatic playback)
Simple enough, right? Anything else, icing on the cake. Couldn't really find one though.
So who is going to fill the market?
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AudioLayer lets you set loop points and set the loop crossfade. Not sure if one would say managing the sample library is easy. As far as I know, it is the only AU sampler with definable loop and cross fade points. Creating instruments from your samples is easy if they are named reasonably as AudioLayer has a mechanism from building instruments based on the name.
Instruments can have velocity layers, round-robin, etc.
You can turn off pitch tracking for samples if you don't want want them to play chromatically. It doesn't have built in pads but there are plenty of options for AU drum pads.
Both Chameleon and Digisticks should qualify but I'm not a huge fan of those apps.
I do most of my sampling in BM3.
Hopefully we'll see some more competent samplers during 2021.
AudioLayer works for most of above.
Would love to see serato sample ported over to ios
I forgot about how the Files app makes loading and managing samples easier, and Audiolayer is probably the closest to what I am looking for.
Still seems like there's a void there, that could be filled with an MPC style AU sampler.
Surprised no one has done one yet.
That’s been my dream for a while now!
Beatmaker 3 is pretty close to what you’re looking for.
BM3 is the best sampler available on iOS, the time stretch implementation is really clever and one of the most powerful I ever encounter.
Sample editing really easy as opposed to Audiolayer where the U.I. Is not zoomable enough to be usable.
Hope one day we see a sampler like this in auv3 format.
How many would be interested in such a sampler ?
EG Pulse is perfect for this: MPC style sampler. It's my favorite drum machine AU. Plus, you can use the Kit Maker desktop app to convert Maschine kits to EG Pulse and other iOS formats.
Once you convert the kits, just load them into the AU, and boom full drum kits in AU with multi-out ready to go.
I’m sure this guy could make one !
How cool is this!
I saw that one, didn’t see any looping with crossfades though.
+1
Attention, this is a public service announcement. The above post was rated ‘Down the Rabbit Hole’!
+1 for BM3 sampler as AU is all we need. Proper time stretching, proper sample browser, editing options, slicing to pads... there’s a lot missing in current samplers. Drambo can be somehow forced to do many of these but still not perfect, time stretching is poor etc...
As I totally screwed my first post ; I will try to post it one more time.
On the discussion,
which apps are most suitable for total control over "samples" let's discuss what is possible with what we have ATM: (like AUM~Audioshare, garageband, BM3 etc.) instead of complaining what isn't possible.
W.O.R.K.F.L.O.W.
Some people hate it; I like to follow it.
As an answer on my own post i leave it up to you:
I've owned Tempest drum machine hardware and others, 8000 € eurorack drummachine I've created myself in 2 years, but nothing beats the fexiblility and format of an ipad while travelling; which is almost my day job.
I like to create a sound in Aum, record it to Audioshare, process later (post-production) into a lot of apps, D.A.W. like stuff. It works this way; I promise you.
I've had hardware system of a technics turntable 1200 (?) / Mixer / recording train of apparatusses, but it's easy to do crate diggin' online! Just try to find your record with (insert name your looking for) and "blogspot"
What is your favourite style of online crate diggin'?
BM3 no question about it, all the files are easily accessible thru Files.app.
If you need a more powerful audio-editor Auditor is a good option as it allows you to directly open files from the location they are at and save them back as well without tedious import/export procedures. (Ie. if the BM3 sample editor is not enough switch over to Auditor and edit the file).
AUv3 sampling in BM3 is pretty nifty and if you need to process audio thru effects before sampling set up an audio track with the desired effects and use that track as the input to the sample-recorder in BM3.
Resampling is a bit 'clunky' at the moment but not harder that creating a pattern with a note/notes and then doing a synced recording with the pattern/track as the source for the recorder.
For quick and fun sampling I'd love to see Koala as an AUv3. sEGments is a bit unstable at the moment.
We're not even one week in into 2021 so I can only hope that we'll see this 'gap' closed during the year.
Cheers!
I was using segments but found if you locked the key and changed tempo it would not sound good, especially compared to serato sample abd ableton which is what I'm used to. Even a few bpm would damage the sound.
This was in drambo and I was also getting extremely high CPU spikes when using segments so may be an issue with using it inside drambo
I’ve been looking for a good AUv3 sampler recently too, although with a slightly different use case - I want to drop it on an FX slot in NS2 and sample the input, and then have it useful for playback as an instrument on another track. I’ve not found anything I like yet.
Would Enso work? I learnt that tip from @Janosax
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/39127/workflow-tip-recording-automation-in-garageband-with-enso-secret-weapon
AudioLayer can do that.
AudioLayer has got some things I like, decent precision and the sampling in the FX slot is good, playback I’m not sold though. Enso I find very hit and miss, though I should probably spend some more time with the manual.
AudioLayer for the sampling and Egoist for the playback is as close as I’ve got to something I like.
What about the playback from AudioLayer aren't you sold on?
I have the same question. AL playback is rock solid for me.
Sorry both, I posted that and then went AWOL. AL’s playback just isn’t how I use samples I think. Nothing against the app, but the slicing, sequencing, arranging and control over the envelope that I get in Egoist is much more up alley. Egoist has some quirks to it to, but I do love what it can do. Unless I’m completely missing something in AudioLayer, I don’t think it can do any of that?
AudioLayer isn't a slicer or sequencer. It is a sampler and sample player. For sequencing and arranging, you would need to use a sequencer. What about the envelope do you want to control but can't in AL?
Ah, I think the envelope controls in AudioLayer are actually more sophisticated than Egoist but certainly more complicated to figure out. The key here though, I think, is that you are looking for a slicer, which AL is not.
Yeah, my failure to communicate, sorry.
We demand your immediate resignation.
BM3 is definitely one of the best, but sEGments is great too.