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App store downloads very slow for me at moment Anyone else?

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  • Sorry it looks like it took me a while to respond, your thread just showed up for me and it’s already an hour old! Maybe it’s a wormhole thing. But yes, my App Store is stodgy as well.

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    Sorry it looks like it took me a while to respond, your thread just showed up for me and it’s already an hour old! Maybe it’s a wormhole thing. But yes, my App Store is stodgy as well.

    @NoiseHorse ok thanks Mine (appstore) still slow

  • I had a nightmare experience trying to restore IAP's in an app today. To troubleshoot the
    problem I deleted the app and even tho' it was about 150MB in size it took 30 minutes to
    re-install the app. Then the IAP restores kept failing... eventually, after a few hours I restored
    all the IAP's.

    I'm actually hoping it's an AppStore issue with a lot of post Holiday activity on their services.

    Because the alternatives are:

    network problems for me (home Wi-Fi or service provider)
    a flakey app that fails IAP restores

  • @McD said:
    I had a nightmare experience trying to restore IAP's in an app today. To troubleshoot the
    problem I deleted the app and even tho' it was about 150MB in size it took 30 minutes to
    re-install the app. Then the IAP restores kept failing... eventually, after a few hours I restored
    all the IAP's.

    I'm actually hoping it's an AppStore issue with a lot of post Holiday activity on their services.

    Because the alternatives are:

    network problems for me (home Wi-Fi or service provider)
    a flakey app that fails IAP restores

    @McD thanks for info. It seems bit faster now than before so hopefully soon back to normal

  • @NoiseHorse any improvement with appstore download speed ? Its still slow for me

  • @stormbeats said:
    @NoiseHorse any improvement with appstore download speed ? Its still slow for me

    It's either the post Holiday "new iPhone/ipad" users stressing the apple datacenters or
    general internet traffic issues. The fact that SolarWinds "network management" products
    got hacked and are making network and service providers scramble to patch their system
    might also be a factor that they might not disclose.

  • @McD said:

    @stormbeats said:
    @NoiseHorse any improvement with appstore download speed ? Its still slow for me

    It's either the post Holiday "new iPhone/ipad" users stressing the apple datacenters or
    general internet traffic issues. The fact that SolarWinds "network management" products
    got hacked and are making network and service providers scramble to patch their system
    might also be a factor that they might not disclose.

    @McD ok thanks. is your app store slow as well still ?

  • McDMcD
    edited January 2021

    @stormbeats said:
    @McD ok thanks. is your app store slow as well still ?

    After getting GeoShred restored I haven't had to use the service. Are you buying a lot
    of new apps or re-installing apps that got pushed off due to limited storage space?

    MoForte advised me that disk fragmentation can be an issue but I have no idea how to de-frag a IOS file system. I suspect you would go back to factory defaults and then restore all you apps and get a clean layout... maybe someone knows more about this issue because
    Storage Management is a high problem. Adding "restore" headaches to that just makes getting work done a nightmare.

    I think I'm ready for a huge storage capacity iPad. Most of us optimize our purchasing by NOT paying for the upper end of the storage options... big mistake we end up paying for now.

    I'll delete "miRack" at 300MB and report on the restore download time.

  • @McD said:

    @stormbeats said:
    @McD ok thanks. is your app store slow as well still ?

    After getting GeoShred restored I haven't had to use the service. Are you buying a lot
    of new apps or re-installing apps that got pushed off due to limited storage space?

    MoForte advised me that disk fragmentation can be an issue but I have no idea how to de-frag a IOS file system. I suspect you would go back to factory defaults and then restore all you apps and get a clean layout... maybe someone knows more about this issue because
    Storage Management is a high problem. Adding "restore" headaches to that just makes getting work done a nightmare.

    I think I'm ready for a huge storage capacity iPad. Most of us optimize our purchasing by NOT paying for the upper end of the storage options... big mistake we end up paying for now.

    I'll delete "miRack" at 300MB and report on the restore download time.

    @McD cheers its slow on all my devices I gather its prob busy appstore at moment

  • McDMcD
    edited January 2021

    @stormbeats said:
    @McD cheers its slow on all my devices I gather its prob busy App Store at moment

    UPDATE: "miRack" finished so the download wheel is not reliable for estimating download speeds. It finished in 30 minutes so 10MB per minute
    in this case.

    The Apple Store has downloaded 25% of miRacks (using the App Store download "wheel" as the measuring device) after 15 minutes so I'm getting 5MB per minute performance. Ouch.

    That means a 1GB monster might take 3+ hours and if it fails for any reason... most apps "restart". There doesn't seem to be great engineering happening w.r.t. this essential feature of IOS usage.

    I feel your pain but only every once in a while.

    1. Apple points at the app provider.
    2. The app provider points at Apple.
    3. Then they both point at the network service you use.
    4. The network service questions your Wi-Fi installation.

    It' truly amazing this whole global network has survived 2020 with so many relying on all these systems to scale up under high demand.

  • edited January 2021

    In my limited experience, I've found Apple hosted IAP content to be an intermittent nightmare since roundabout the iOS 14 release.

    I've said elsewhere (probably way too many times) that there's strong evidence to suggest that the download process and infrastructure has had significant re-work and I'm still seeing all sorts of weird inconsistencies and other stuff that just looks like bugs on the Apple / server-side.

    Resuming either paused or failed downloads used to work, but I don't think it does anymore, at least not reliably last time I checked. Obviously, that sucks if you're trying to get a big IAP restored that randomly fails with an "unknown error" :neutral:

    @McD said: 1. Apple points at the app provider

    Have you had contact from Apple engineers pointing at specific app providers? Again, in my limited experience, they've been curiously quiet on this front, which, historically, is usually an admission of guilt :smile:

    I'd be delighted if they pointed at me and told me what I'm doing wrong. Not holding my breath... :wink:

    My guess is, the combination of the flakey servers / plumbing (at the best of times) combined with lots of Xmas holiday gamers downloading new levels, is killing the performance of IAP content downloads. It's the perfect storm, sadly.

    My New Years resolutions include...

    1. Look at hosting alternatives for IAP content (work in progress...)
    2. Never release new IAPs around the holiday period :smile:
  • @McD said:

    @stormbeats said:
    @McD cheers its slow on all my devices I gather its prob busy App Store at moment

    UPDATE: "miRack" finished so the download wheel is not reliable for estimating download speeds. It finished in 30 minutes so 10MB per minute
    in this case.

    The Apple Store has downloaded 25% of miRacks (using the App Store download "wheel" as the measuring device) after 15 minutes so I'm getting 5MB per minute performance. Ouch.

    That means a 1GB monster might take 3+ hours and if it fails for any reason... most apps "restart". There doesn't seem to be great engineering happening w.r.t. this essential feature of IOS usage.

    I feel your pain but only every once in a while.

    1. Apple points at the app provider.
    2. The app provider points at Apple.
    3. Then they both point at the network service you use.
    4. The network service questions your Wi-Fi installation.

    It' truly amazing this whole global network has survived 2020 with so many relying on all these systems to scale up under high demand.

    @McD its weird because all other internet sites seem to be at normal speed. Just Apple App store. I’am going to wait a bit and see what happens.

  • @stormbeats said:
    @McD its weird because all other internet sites seem to be at normal speed. Just Apple App store. I’am going to wait a bit and see what happens.

    If it starts turning into App refunds based upon install errors it will get Apple's attention.

    I bought a Mac OS DAW on sale and started downloading free AU/VST plug-ins and it reminded me how good we have it with Apple enforcing control to insure platform stability
    and standards. Love it or hate... IOS and OS X just works... maybe not the best performance but the least amount of headaches overall, IMHO.

    Rumor has it they are going to sell an iCar. Probably with batteries you can't replace and
    Siri insisting on driving if she smells any alcohol. And map/navigation routing that keeps taking you near the Apple Store.

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