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Endlesss2020
A few folks here in the forum enjoyed jamming on Endlesss but I doubt many here would consider it “app of the year” for 2020. I would, but for very specific and hardly replicable reasons. I will always remember 2020 for the COVID19 pandemic (duh) but also how the Endlesss app served as a life raft for my creative and emotional health. As the lockdown took hold i started walking around my town as a way to get out and feel “away” from my home. As i was walking around i started jamming on Endlesss with strangers from all over the world—using my iPhone and a crappy pair of wired Apple ear buds. But day after day i recorded little bits and then turned them into little vignettes with talented musicians all over the world. It felt liberating and joyful in challenging times. The social aspect of the app also felt like a luxury—making new friends in isolation!
When i took time off at the end of the year i listened to some of the vignettes from throughout the year and started bringing them together into an “album “, completely for my own listening pleasure in some distant “back to normal” time. I love how i can hear birds chirping and dogs barking in some of the recordings! If you like slightly lofi eclectic indie music you may dig the results. If you prefer more high fidelity EDM then you won’t find much here—but you should check out the new Endlesss Studio, which complements the free iOS app very nicely.
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I absolutely adore Endlesss. It’s cool getting to interact with folks on there. You can collaborate and piece things together without ever having a conversation which I think is a really neat thing. I’ve had jam sessions with @drcongo, @AudioGus, and @RedSkyLullaby to name a few.
I’ll have to check these out when I have a moment to listen.
Good lord, some really infectious and lovely stuff in here @lukesleepwalker ! Legit loving listening to every second.
Ahh yah Endlesss, it’s a beautiful thing. Certainly my pick for app of the year. No contest at all. Simple, fast, easy, fun, super creative, collaborative. Wish there were a fast, easy, fun, super creative way to arrange all these stems though that didn't involve mouse and keyboard.
Sounds good. It’s been fun, but having so few bars has driven me crazy. That and the people I was trying to jam with kind of just dropped off. Not having MIDI made it less easy to use on a whim. Only being able to input external sounds by using an audio interface made it not so good for a quick jam as well. No Landscape mode made it impossible to use on my iPad Pro 12.9”. So, I just used my iPhone or Air 2. Also, it was free, so you know pretty great for not paying anything.
Has anyone tried the one for Mac/PC? I’m watching the video and it looks like it’s about as limited on loop size as the iOS. It seems like it caches more loops than the iOS does though, so you might be able to remix/add them together better then on iOS. It’s on sale for 99 USD until March it seems.
I too got a lot of joy from endless this year. I love the whole destructive audio recording workflow and the collaborative song building.
Endlesss is really cool. @oddSTAR got me to use the app a bit more last year and it's really cool. Where I found it difficult was to turn my ideas into a full song. I tried Blocs Wave, Koala but couldn't get something I really like, while using the same loop structure.
Ended up sending it to Garageband Live Loops. That seemed to work well...for now. Looking into Zenbeats live looping features as well.
Lovely stuff. Endlesss is app of the year for me too - right at the start of lockdown I had a jam with a couple of mates for about 3 or 4 hours and it just flew past, with barely a moment in that whole time where the music we were making wasn’t some of the best music I’ve ever hand a hand in making.
Endlesss helped to keep me excited about music creation all year long in 2020.
When tech issues, app learning curves and global pandemonium threatened to bring me down, it was the deep and dead simple sandbox I got to relax in with friends. Along the way it also became a kind of sketchpad where I’d hook up Samplr and a favorite synth and jam out under the stars on my own.
Thanks for sharing your truly excellent creations @lukesleepwalker, makes me wonder if there are any running Jams for AB members..?
@lukesleepwalker , not really my musical cup of tea but some interesting sounds and I am fascinated by what you can achieve with the app / way of working so keep it up!
BM3 is still the best for me on iOS for chopping and moving stem bits. But even then I find I end up having to export the zips to desktop and using a 'duplicate file finder' utility to delete all of the redundant loops. As smooth as Endlesss is at making that initial creative blast I find I end up paying for it later in the process. If they even get a marginally decent after the fact arranger mode on the iOS app to simply make exporting cleaner that would be great.
Thanks to everyone who gave the tracks a listen. Goes without saying that musical tastes vary, but I like to think that Endlesss opened me up to jamming on a variety of genres/vibes. I do think Endlesss Studio would help create finished tracks much more easily than the method I used. I constructed most of these vignettes/songs using an Endlesss technique called "rifffhopping" (hence the reference to rifffhoppers in the title of SoundCloud collection); you can find tips on this technique on the Endlesss Dischord server. If you listen closely you can hear the clipped tails of some of the loops as I was rifffhopping the tunes into a longer form than the typical rifff loops on Endlesss. Riffhopping uses Apple screen recorder so the audio quality is probably not great, but I personally dig the warm, smeary, lo-fi sound that Endlesss conjures up. I'm probably in the minority there.
To @AudioGus point, I did use BM3 to construct the three collections of vignettes. I find it be the easiest tool to use to pull together different loops/stems.
Thanks for the tip @AudioGus and great thread @lukesleepwalker. It's funny...I haven't fully dived into Beatmaker 3. Gotta get comfortable spending time learning a lot more DAWs this year.
Yep, no doubt app of the year for me, probably all time. Has limitations but huge creative outlet in a way no other app has been. Made a collaborative album with bunch of people I have never met but now know well musically
Share the resulting album?
Could not have said it better! Endlesss has been a music revolution for me. It is fun to use, integrates perfectly with my creation process, has effectively solved my perpetual issue with not finishing any tracks, gave me an online social life with an amazingly supportive and talented musical community, and cured all my other ailments. Okay, just kidding about that last part but I truly cannot say enough good things about it. Best app ever!
I didn’t know nothing about endlesss 🙃 - have to change this immediately.
Nice results.
That’s a good voice you got there. Distinctive.
Why thank you, sir. Honed over many years and recently started treating it like an instrument rather than a battering ram. Endlesss was instructive in this regard—working with varying sounds in various keys made me vary my approach to singing, especially given that i was singing into Apple ear buds while walking around my town.
@McD collab on the first vignette of the autumn collection. I enjoyed working with him on that even though he never joined the jam on Endlesss.
@lukesleepwalker listening to the first one, really so good! I’ll echo the lineman, love your voice Luke
Thank you for the kind words.
All made in Endlesss and stems mixed in to tracks in various DAWs by each member, I used AuriaPro so mine are 100% ipad. 2nd album is in progress currently
I recommend listen to long form tracks 15, 16, 17 as those are the prior tracks combined in 3 mixes
https://theveltrons.bandcamp.com/album/the-veltron-transmissions
@RedSkyLullaby good stuff! looking forward to the second album.
I’m digging this Endless concept to collaborate. Do you just find people to collaborate in the app?.
Yep, super easy. Just go into one of the featured jams on the app and you’ll find plenty of fine folks.
It’s crazy when I hop into a jam that I haven’t been in in weeks and something I added is still in there.
I tried it out, this thing is so much fun.
So when you start a jam. Do you put out a loop or a whole project?.
I guess I’ll have to look for some tutorial video. Playing around with Endless makes you wonder about all the complex setups and workflows. Being limited to some sounds and fx like the ones in Endless is sort of liberating in a way. You just do what you can. 👍
Special mention to the looper. Being able to choose what you recorded (and the length) after actually playing it is sort of genius, I’d love something like this in auv3 format!
Great sounding tracks. I’m hearing quite a few hints of Bowie. The sound is cool, but I personally don’t think overly polished is necessary a good thing. Sounds very underground, yet accomplished. Nice one man. Nice to hear some of your stuff after so many years on the forum.
You start with loops—and honestly most people end with loops and are happy. Just get in the flow and create type of thing. As mentioned above it takes some advanced techniques to make a full track in the app although the Studio app makes it dead simple. Lots of videos on YT to get you started.
Thx for listening! Agree wholeheartedly on the point about the relative merits of polish.
Erf? The Studio desktop app has some sort of timeline or something?
Really cool stuff Mr. Sleepwalker. The first one especially and I also join the choir; praising your voice. Love it.
Listening to the third as I'm writing this, my face makes strange things .. smile I think it's called ..