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Atom piano roll compared to Evolution Mobiles piano roll
There seems to be overlap here. Is there a good reason to get Atom when then is a piano roll in Evolution Mobile?
Thanks as always
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Not having tried Atom 2 yet, this is just a guess. But I do have Atom 1, and AE, and I use them differently. I compose in AUM, arrange a provisional mix in AE, and/or export to Ableton for final arrangements and mastering.
Atom captures the ‘live’ per channel auto generators I use in AUM like Riffer, Fugue Machine, or Autony, during the composition stage. (Once Atom 2 comes out I can avoid the interim stage, which is using Photon to capture the Atom loops as exportable .mid files.)
I then use the MIDI track and piano roll options in AE to arrange and tweak these, and, sometimes, to re voice the patterns using other instruments.
YMMV.
Remember Atom 2 is on the horizon. I think you’ll find the differences (and advantages) pretty stark once it’s out.
Oh, and the Atom apps work across all hosts (including Drambo) and is working towards a modular system of components.
Having said all this, the question kind of feels like a false equivalence. Native piano rolls (despite their faults) still have several advantages over a plug-in piano roll. The BM3 piano roll is far from the best, but I use it all the time because of the way it integrates seamlessly with BM3’s 3D midi patterns and automation lanes.
This is exactly the workflow I want to use. Compose in AUM, capture a performance (short defined loops of MIDI and Audio but also some improvised MIDI/Audio) somehow. Then pull into AE as midi/audio files (I guess). I will then possibly export to Logic Pro on Mac for mastering.
So it sounds like I cannot capture direct from AUM into AE?
This is a great point. Atom is incredibly good for chaining together MIDI fx (and feeding one Atom into another) for capturing complex generative midi patterns.
@NimboStratus : yes, you can, just set a standalone instance of AE up in the AUM as a midi destination via the midi matrix page, set the parallel input up on a track in AE to receive, and you can record ‘live’ from the selected generator(s) into the AE piano roll.
But I tend to do a lot of tweaking and use of the editing tweaks available in the existing Atom instances interactively with the piece in AUM as I develop it, so I prefer to work with the Atom clips direct in the first instance, and do more top level editing later in the AE piano roll if required.
Atom 2 promises much, including the ability to export standard .mid files direct, so this will save having to use Photon for the interim stage. I guess I could just play the ‘finished piece’ into AE midi tracks of course, but by exporting the collection of discrete clips via Photon this way I find I can retain a better handle on what I am doing with all the clips. Atom 2 will be a game changer, though.