Found sounds recorder?

NimboStratus

Hi, sorry if this is a basic question but is there a recommended recorder I can run on phone that will save for audio share to send to iPad easily so I can record some sounds when I’m around the house and out and about. I’d like to then use something (ideally Poly 2 or similar) to then trigger.

Thanks all as ever!!

Poppadocrock

Audioshare has a great little recorder built-in

AudioGus

Koala would probably be great for this. https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/koala-sampler/id1449584007

mrufino1

@NimboStratus said:
Hi, sorry if this is a basic question but is there a recommended recorder I can run on phone that will save for audio share to send to iPad easily so I can record some sounds when I’m around the house and out and about. I’d like to then use something (ideally Poly 2 or similar) to then trigger.

Thanks all as ever!!

Definitely audioshare. Then, if you’re using the iPhone mic, go to the hardware settings to turn measurement mode on, as well as having a gain control to turn the gain down as the mic is usually too hot. Then you can edit in audioshare and send your recordings wherever you want.

NimboStratus

Ah ! Of course thanks!!

BITCRUSHER

Fieldscaper...

McD

Voice Memo?

What about the best mic's to improve the audio fidelity? Is there a Lightning based Mic?
I think IK Multimedia has a lightning mic for iPhones.

rs2000

Loopy HD, Koala and Flip are great for recording and doing jams on the go. All of them can export recordings.

@McD I like my Zoom iQ7, covered by a small fur when outside, a lot. Very decent quality, good stereo image and it picks up distant sound well (e.g. for live recordings).

McD

@rs2000 said:
@McD I like my Zoom iQ7,

Why are the mic 90 degrees out of phase? Does that improve the stereo image? It seems
counter intuitive for an accurate image. (Anyone can play and speak up).

Zoom iQ7 covered by a small fur when outside

That's a picture.

Very decent quality, good stereo image and it picks up distant sound well (e.g. for live recordings).

Good image then... looks weird to me.

mrufino1

@McD said:

@rs2000 said:
@McD I like my Zoom iQ7,

Why are the mic 90 degrees out of phase? Does that improve the stereo image? It seems
counter intuitive for an accurate image. (Anyone can play and speak up).

Zoom iQ7 covered by a small fur when outside

That's a picture.

Very decent quality, good stereo image and it picks up distant sound well (e.g. for live recordings).

Good image then... looks weird to me.

The mics aren’t 90 degrees out of phase. One is a cardioid mic (the mid), one is a figure 8 mic (side) pointed sideways so the null points are in front and back.

If you were to decode mid-side manually in your DAW by using two mics, for the side mic you duplicate the channel and flip the polarity. Then, group those 2 together. With those two faders all the way down you get only mono from the mid mic, and as you raise them the image gets wider. If your recording plays back on a mono system, the side mic (the 2 channels with opposite polarity that you grouped) cancels itself out, so it’s fully mono compatible.

I have the h6 mid side mic but haven’t ever used it beyond testing it to see if it works, but I believe zoom just decodes the whole thing into a stereo signal, so you don’t have control over the width by manipulating the side control. But I might be wrong.

rs2000

@mrufino1 said:

@McD said:

@rs2000 said:
@McD I like my Zoom iQ7,

Why are the mic 90 degrees out of phase? Does that improve the stereo image? It seems
counter intuitive for an accurate image. (Anyone can play and speak up).

Zoom iQ7 covered by a small fur when outside

That's a picture.

Very decent quality, good stereo image and it picks up distant sound well (e.g. for live recordings).

Good image then... looks weird to me.

The mics aren’t 90 degrees out of phase. One is a cardioid mic (the mid), one is a figure 8 mic (side) pointed sideways so the null points are in front and back.

If you were to decode mid-side manually in your DAW by using two mics, for the side mic you duplicate the channel and flip the polarity. Then, group those 2 together. With those two faders all the way down you get only mono from the mid mic, and as you raise them the image gets wider. If your recording plays back on a mono system, the side mic (the 2 channels with opposite polarity that you grouped) cancels itself out, so it’s fully mono compatible.

I have the h6 mid side mic but haven’t ever used it beyond testing it to see if it works, but I believe zoom just decodes the whole thing into a stereo signal, so you don’t have control over the width by manipulating the side control. But I might be wrong.

Both are possible. You can switch between native Mid-Side or decoded Stereo signal.
It also doubles as a headphones output which is handy for monitoring.

ecamburn

AUM + Brusfri

colonel_mustard

@mrufino1 said:

@NimboStratus said:
Hi, sorry if this is a basic question but is there a recommended recorder I can run on phone that will save for audio share to send to iPad easily so I can record some sounds when I’m around the house and out and about. I’d like to then use something (ideally Poly 2 or similar) to then trigger.

Thanks all as ever!!

Definitely audioshare. Then, if you’re using the iPhone mic, go to the hardware settings to turn measurement mode on, as well as having a gain control to turn the gain down as the mic is usually too hot. Then you can edit in audioshare and send your recordings wherever you want.

+1

24bit / 44.1k / mono / wav works for me. I try to record as clean as I can, then clean up, edit and process files after.

Watch out for wind, and name files as you go

rs2000

If you want a more powerful audio editor than Audioshare, TwistedWave is great and it supports brusfri denoising directly. It also has fairly good pitch shift and time stretch algos plus good WiFi connectivity.
And it records reliably even when the phone is locked.

mrufino1

@rs2000 said:
If you want a more powerful audio editor than Audioshare, TwistedWave is great and it supports brusfri denoising directly. It also has fairly good pitch shift and time stretch algos plus good WiFi connectivity.
And it records reliably even when the phone is locked.

I haven’t used twisted wave in a while, does it have a gain control?

mrufino1

@rs2000 said:

@mrufino1 said:

@McD said:

@rs2000 said:
@McD I like my Zoom iQ7,

Why are the mic 90 degrees out of phase? Does that improve the stereo image? It seems
counter intuitive for an accurate image. (Anyone can play and speak up).

Zoom iQ7 covered by a small fur when outside

That's a picture.

Very decent quality, good stereo image and it picks up distant sound well (e.g. for live recordings).

Good image then... looks weird to me.

The mics aren’t 90 degrees out of phase. One is a cardioid mic (the mid), one is a figure 8 mic (side) pointed sideways so the null points are in front and back.

If you were to decode mid-side manually in your DAW by using two mics, for the side mic you duplicate the channel and flip the polarity. Then, group those 2 together. With those two faders all the way down you get only mono from the mid mic, and as you raise them the image gets wider. If your recording plays back on a mono system, the side mic (the 2 channels with opposite polarity that you grouped) cancels itself out, so it’s fully mono compatible.

I have the h6 mid side mic but haven’t ever used it beyond testing it to see if it works, but I believe zoom just decodes the whole thing into a stereo signal, so you don’t have control over the width by manipulating the side control. But I might be wrong.

Both are possible. You can switch between native Mid-Side or decoded Stereo signal.
It also doubles as a headphones output which is handy for monitoring.

Interesting, I’ll have to see if the h6 m/s mic gives that option. I don’t use m/s very often, but would be good to know I have the option.