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why can’t we get a 4 track or 8 track AU fx app

erosseross
edited February 2021 in General App Discussion

all these great apps, but it’s surprising to me no one has made a 4 or 8 tracks recorder app. this would be very useful in AUM. It could set in the fx slot and record anything in Aum.
what’s more, if it included a way to loop part of the recorded audio that would be even better.

Comments

  • kveiskveis

    https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/multitrack-recorder-plugin/id1483833410

  • GravitasGravitas

    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

  • JeezsJeezs
    edited February 2021

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    4pockets could resolve the problem but play stop parameters are not exposed.
    And if you used many instances you can’t sync their timeline( I mean if you scrub on a timeline of an instance, others are not aware of the new song position.)
    So the interest a bit limited

  • kveiskveis

    @Jeezs said:

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    4pockets could resolve the problem but play stop parameters are not exposed.
    So the interest very limited as there’s also no way to play sync it to AUM song position.

    There’s a host sync button so play, stop and song position are synced with the hosts timeline.

  • wimwim

    ^ this.

  • JeezsJeezs

    @kveis said:

    @Jeezs said:

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    4pockets could resolve the problem but play stop parameters are not exposed.
    So the interest very limited as there’s also no way to play sync it to AUM song position.

    There’s a host sync button so play, stop and song position are synced with the hosts timeline.

    I wasn’t very clear. I Mean you can’t sync if you move the play head to listen to a specific parts.
    This apply when using many instance of multitrack or if you want to sync a midi sequencer like LK or atome.

  • wimwim

    @Jeezs said:

    @kveis said:

    @Jeezs said:

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    4pockets could resolve the problem but play stop parameters are not exposed.
    So the interest very limited as there’s also no way to play sync it to AUM song position.

    There’s a host sync button so play, stop and song position are synced with the hosts timeline.

    I wasn’t very clear. I Mean you can’t sync if you move the play head to listen to a specific parts.
    This apply when using many instance of multitrack or if you want to sync a midi sequencer like LK or atome.

    In AUM, if you move the timeline by scrubbing over the AUM transport area, rather than by moving it in MTR, you can still keep sync. But yes, timeline + audio in AUM in general is difficult at best.

  • Tamir_Raz_MatazTamir_Raz_Mataz

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    Unfortunately they’re not rock solid. If only they were stable in sync

  • kveiskveis

    @Jeezs said:

    @kveis said:

    @Jeezs said:

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    4pockets could resolve the problem but play stop parameters are not exposed.
    So the interest very limited as there’s also no way to play sync it to AUM song position.

    There’s a host sync button so play, stop and song position are synced with the hosts timeline.

    I wasn’t very clear. I Mean you can’t sync if you move the play head to listen to a specific parts.
    This apply when using many instance of multitrack or if you want to sync a midi sequencer like LK or atome.

    Surely if you have multiple instances with host sync on you can scrub through AUMs timeline and the will stay in sync?

  • wimwim

    I'd be happy if Multitrack DAW (not to be confused with Multitrack Recorder and Multitrack Studio :# ) could sync to midi clock and Song Position Pointer. I wouldn't even care that it's not AUv3.

    At least three years now of trying to enlist developers to address this glaring hole. MTR came the closest, but is flawed in many ways. Thankfully @Michael has taken the bait. We just have to be patient 'till he can get it done.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @Tamir_Raz_Mataz said:

    @Gravitas said:
    If I’m not mistaken 4pockets have a multitrack auv3 recorder
    and similarly you could use Audiokits L7 which is also auv3.

    Unfortunately they’re not rock solid. If only they were stable in sync

    Agreed in regards to L7 and it’s stability which is a pity.
    I don’t have the the 4pockets one so I wouldn’t know.

  • GravitasGravitas

    @wim said:
    sync to midi clock and Song Position Pointer

    Yup.
    This would be quite useful.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    4pockets is only 16-bit too.

  • wimwim

    Humm ... only 4 bits per pocket then? :#

  • erosseross

    4 pockets. i’ll try that out. thanks

  • Edward_AlexanderEdward_Alexander

    @wim said:
    Humm ... only 4 bits per pocket then? :#

    Yes, but will it.. ambient?

  • erosseross
    edited February 2021

    multitrack is a bit of a pain to setup and use. i’m looking for quick simple recording and playback.

  • auxmuxauxmux

    @wim said:
    Humm ... only 4 bits per pocket then? :#

    😎

  • reasOnereasOne

    Multi track recorder would be great if you could run several inputs into it at once to record on separate tracks. Recording one at a time is daunting often times however i do use it when the time calls for it

  • wimwim
    edited February 2021

    @reasOne said:
    Multi track recorder would be great if you could run several inputs into it at once to record on separate tracks. Recording one at a time is daunting often times however i do use it when the time calls for it

    I’m not sure that’s possible for an AUv3 app. I’ve heard of multi-out AUv3, but not multi-in. I don’t know how you’d set up the audio routing for that in AUM.

    Edit: I guess maybe it’s possible since there are sidechain capable apps.

  • reasOnereasOne

    @wim said:

    @reasOne said:
    Multi track recorder would be great if you could run several inputs into it at once to record on separate tracks. Recording one at a time is daunting often times however i do use it when the time calls for it

    I’m not sure that’s possible for an AUv3 app. I’ve heard of multi-out AUv3, but not multi-in. I don’t know how you’d set up the audio routing for that in AUM.

    Edit: I guess maybe it’s possible since there are sidechain capable apps.

    Even if you had to set up multi effect slot instances of the app, each with their own input from a separate channel that could be useful and may actually be possible but I suppose the app would have to a multi out app, In order to re combine all those tracks back into one playable instance of the app 🤯🥸🧐

  • wimwim
    edited February 2021

    @reasOne said:

    @wim said:

    @reasOne said:
    Multi track recorder would be great if you could run several inputs into it at once to record on separate tracks. Recording one at a time is daunting often times however i do use it when the time calls for it

    I’m not sure that’s possible for an AUv3 app. I’ve heard of multi-out AUv3, but not multi-in. I don’t know how you’d set up the audio routing for that in AUM.

    Edit: I guess maybe it’s possible since there are sidechain capable apps.

    Even if you had to set up multi effect slot instances of the app, each with their own input from a separate channel that could be useful and may actually be possible but I suppose the app would have to a multi out app, In order to re combine all those tracks back into one playable instance of the app 🤯🥸🧐

    If all the instances are set to the same audio pool, then it's super easy just to combine the audio clips into any one instance. Even between hosts.

    MultiTrack has it's issues and isn't for everyone, but it can be pretty useful if you're willing to accept it at face value rather than only looking at its shortcomings.

    Personally, I don't bother with it much. I've never been one to beat my head against the wall trying to cobble together some kind of "DAWless" workflow. If I'm going to be doing both midi and audio clips then I get out of AUM and into a DAW as soon as I can. Zenbeats is the most effective for me.

  • erosseross

    yeah, most of the time I just use iphone of ipad , and record it into my Desktop Daw
    via an iconnect audio/midi interface.
    but more and more i just wish i had a simple 4 track tape recorder style option like digitally, like the old analog recorder I started out on many years ago. the simpler the better for quick music sketching. maybe someday.
    lol I really wish I could wrap my head and have more patience to do coding. because as a graphic designer, I can easily visualize , make the gui for it.

  • krassmannkrassmann

    Just my 2ct. 4Pockets multitrack did not really work for me. I could not really figure out how efficiently work with larger audio track arrangements. Last but not least 8 tracks is not much if you want to bounce your synths to audio to save CPU. Instead of that I think it’s better to sync an iOS DAW with AUM. That is not an easy thing to do but there are ways to achieve that. I know of solutions with Zenbeats and Cubasis. I‘m using Cubasis as the timeline DAW and AUM + LK as the ableton style sessions. So basically I jam around and develop an idea in AUM. Then I record the session into Cubasis as audio tracks, do some mixing, EQing, then come back to AUM and develop a B part. If necessary I freeze all the tracks in Cubasis to save some CPU. And so forth always recording the other parts into Cubasis. The final arrangement then in Cubasis, probably adding some more synths or samples on an audio track to the arrangement directly in Cubasis. There is small latency issue, so I need to correct the recorded tracks but I don‘t find that so troublesome.

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