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Have you messed with the trimpots? I think it’ll void the warranty but there are a couple trimpots on the board
Just back from work and didn't expect so much reactions! More then 20 years ago I had a room with a lot of hardware stuff like Moog Prodigy, Juno 106, Alpha Juno, MPC60 (and 2000XL) etc.etc. Back then I was an International Truckdriver and was seldom home so decided to sell everything. A few years ago I was really delighted with all the possibilities within iOS and thought I would never go back to hardware. BUT I wanted a Moog back so bought a Grandmother, quite recently a DFAM and then the eurorack adventure started. Since I already have a lot of iOS apps (almost everything released and worthy) I decided to not invest in apps anymore (until Eventide or Moog has something I cannot resist
). Also the plan is to shut off WIFI and any other update thingy in iOS when i'm happy that everything is running as it should. I wanted a small eurorack setup because I also wanted to play without the iPad in front of me. The MPC because I always used an MPC for sequencing and sampling.
The thing is: iOS does have some cool sounds AND effects. Investing in eurorack effects would cost me quite a lot of space and money so it would be better if i had some kind of interface that allows me to put the eurorack audio into iOS and the iOS audio into eurorack. BUT it also has to be affordable......most of the interfaces mentioned on the Sweetwater page are quite expensive so I think that currently the Expert Sleepers stuff is the most affordable (only not for now
)
Maybe I found a “simple” solution for what I want.....Currently talking with someone to buy his Audio Damage Odio 😇
I would recommend against that. AD left their euro customers hanging when they pulled out of the market, fucking a lot of people over by leaving them with modules that don’t work. I doubt you’ll get support for that module.
Another vote for the ES-8/9. It’s truly plug-and-play when it comes down to iOS. With MacOS, you can create an aggregate audio device with it - done.
If you go with the ES-8 and need more outputs later, add an ES-5 expansion module.
Here’s another example of CoVariant driving a Per4mer effects module via an ES-8.
Yeah, I would advise against Odio as well, since it's not supported any more.
Also, Covariant is so awesome!
Seen it working with the current iOS and also planning to “freeze” my iPad. If I like what it does, I could purchase another version within a few months.
Just to let you guys know: yesterday I received and installed the Audio Damage Odio. With the latest iOS it’s immediately recognized and works flawless so for now I’m happy with what I got. I can split the oscillators within my DFAM and treat them separately with the effects I have on my iPad.
Want to upgrade to more in/outputs so am selling my Odio. For future reference: it does what it needs to do without any hassle. Simple plug and play!
@auxmux: interested that you have both the ES8 and 9. I’m dipping my toes in Eurorack right now with a RackBrute 3U, and have one or other of these on my future list to integrate iPad and Ableton with the rack. You mentioned briefly that the 9 has more inputs, I’ve looked at the spec for both and was tending toward the 8 because a) it’s a bit cheaper and b) it looked a bit more ‘plug and play’ than the 9, though that could just be me not paying enough attention. Have you discovered any significant differences between them in use with iPads? My set up is reasonably small, I don’t need masses of inputs, or ADAT, and I just want something that works getting signals to and from the rack, the iPad, and Ableton without making my brain hurt too much. So: what would you advise?
@Svetlovska I have used both with my 9.7 iPad Pro 2016 and they work really well. There are some pros and cons to both, which depends on how you are using them, listed below.
ES-8 is a solid compact choice, because it's only 8hp, which might be better in Rackbrute 3U, but it's easily expandable. You can connect an ES-5 for expansion to have more CV/GATE outputs, but you lose two audio outputs, because they linked to outputs 7/8 on the ES-8. I found the 4 inputs pretty limiting, once you start routing audio signals between modules or using stereo signals. So, I've added an ES-6 to route more modular signals into ES-8 over ADAT in. It's only 4hp, but an additional cost to consider. The other thing you might need is a module to attenuate audio signals to speakers or headphones. I have a Make Noise XOH for this.
If you have another audio interface, then the ADAT ins/outs are helpful, because you can route audio/cv between multiple devices. It can also be used in standalone mode, without USB, so ADAT from another audio interface is routed to the outputs on the ES-8. So, it replicates the functionality of the ES-3.
Some positives about the ES-9: it has more than enough inputs. If you add an ES-5, you don't lose audio outputs like ES-8. You have 8 audio/CV outputs, plus 2 outputs for monitors and a headphone output built in. @bobbfett tipped me off before that you need something to attenuate the monitor signals, because they are not attenuated, like this: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BigKnobPass--mackie-big-knob-passive-2x2-studio-monitor-controller
Typically, I just use the headphone output for monitoring.
The optical inputs/outputs are SPDIF (stereo only) on ES-9, so audio expansion options are limited. When factoring in costs of expansions, ES-8 + addon modules tends to be a bit more, but is slightly more flexible.
What's also nice about having both is that the ES-8 can work like a utility module with miRack with another ipad, instead of having to buy more Eurorack modules.
Quick update:
I had an Odio that did the job well, but I quickly realized some more in and outputs would me much nicer. Sold the Odio and got myself an Expert Sleepers ES-9.
Setting up the ES-9 took some time currently I’m able to:
Although the availability of the ES-9 is rare and it’s more expensive than the Odio, it’s been a worthwhile addition. Especially since miRack, VCV and all the other software within iOS/Mac truly can add something for the fraction of the price.
Pretty happy with this setup!