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Audio Evolution and AUM discussion

Hi,

Starting a thread from some questions about using Audio Evolution.

I’ve been using AUM and just took the plunge with AE. So I have some midi and wondering whether I need to / can add an AUv3 instrument synth to AE or whether it’s ‘best’ to continue to use AUM have integrate AE with it somehow?

Should I run AE in AUM or stand-alone? Just wondering what the best practise is. Thanks

I’ve tried running AE in AUM but cannot get it to start with the AUM transport but it is sending midi back to AUM if I start in AE.

Or is there a simple AUV3 midi player for AUM that can import from piano motifs?

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  • edited February 2021
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  • @tja Restart your iPad to bring back the AUs.

  • I have some midi created from Piano Motifs and want the use to play instruments in AUM as used to using AUM to trigger other instruments from AUM midi apps like Riffer etc. So want to be able to load the midi into an AUM hosted AUV3 app and get it to trigger an instrument and all be sync’d with the other AUM apps

  • Will xequence 2 do that? There must be an easy way to import midi into AUM to play other AUM things no? Thanks as always

    Thinking I don’t really need a DAW

  • Or will Atom 2 be the solution here?

  • wimwim
    edited February 2021

    @NimboStratus said:
    Will xequence 2 do that? There must be an easy way to import midi into AUM to play other AUM things no? Thanks as always

    Thinking I don’t really need a DAW

    Xequence 2 has excellent midi file import and export.
    AUM itself has no MIDI file player.
    Atom 2 will be a great solution.
    LK is a great solution now.

  • In AEM you can both host auv3s and import midi files. It depends if you like the workflow or not, but you can likely build the whole track in aem without needing aum at all. I think aum shines in some of the real time generative stuff, but if you're just using regular midi files or piano roll stuff aem might have you covered.

    If you wanna stick with the modular workflow in aum, xequence will pretty much handle anything midi you need. Just be aware, xequence + aum will have a lot of overlap with aem by itself, as with cubasis and other daws, so before you get xequence see if you can accomplish what you need to all within aem without having to spend extra bucks. Xequence is worth it though.

    If you have all three apps, then my suggested flow would be xequence with all the midi stuff into aum hosting the auv3's, record the track in aum's built in recorder, then import the audio into aem when you're done performing if you need to edit/rearrange the recorded audio.

    I'm still trying to figure out my favorite workflow myself, but as of late I'm leaning more and more towards simplicity and minimalism when it comes to the apps themselves, and leaving the complexity for the composition. Otherwise I get overwhelmed routing x to y to z and back into x 🤪🤣

  • Good post @GeorgeL909.

    This has the added advantage (for me at least) of encouraging separation between the creative phases of composition, sound design, and mixing/mastering.

    Not everyone likes to work that way, and even I don't like to work that way much of the time, but often I get more solid work accomplished if I compartmentalize these aspects to promote focus.

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  • edited February 2021

    Hi thanks for the info, it helps as I try and work out the most appropriate workflow for me. I think ideally I’d like to keep everything in AUM up to the point I “render” into wavs for export to logic for the final mix/master. So having a midi player in AUM would be the best option at the mo.

    So do you think Atom 2 could be a solution here? Runs as AUv3; import midi (even 64 bars in length) so I don’t have to commit to audio unit I’m done with the composition phase? Obvs until it’s out we won’t know what it can do.

    I totally agree with you point on simplicity and minimalism when it comes to the apps themselves, and leaving the complexity for the composition!

    Maybe I just have to get xequence whilst I wait for atom 2 but can I get xequence to stop/start with the AUM transport doesn’t look like it works like that as not Auv3.

    Shame there is no easy solution to this simple workflow

  • edited February 2021

    @NimboStratus said:
    Hi thanks for the info, it helps as I try and work out the most appropriate workflow for me. I think ideally I’d like to keep everything in AUM up to the point I “render” into wavs for export to logic for the final mix/master. So having a midi player in AUM would be the best option at the mo.

    So do you think Atom 2 could be a solution here? Runs as AUv3; import midi (even 64 bars in length) so I don’t have to commit to audio unit I’m done with the composition phase? Obvs until it’s out we won’t know what it can do.

    I totally agree with you point on simplicity and minimalism when it comes to the apps themselves, and leaving the complexity for the composition!

    Maybe I just have to get xequence whilst I wait for atom 2 but can I get xequence to stop/start with the AUM transport doesn’t look like it works like that as not Auv3.

    Shame there is no easy solution to this simple workflow

    Xequence certainly can start and stop the transport and aum can also start and stop xequence's transport via ableton link.

    Xequence functions outside of aum. You don't even have to load it in aum (but I do sometimes so I can easily switch between the two). It just holds all the midi data for editing arranging and playback, and sends it in real time to aum which "plays" the midi data, almost like live input.

    Xequence can send multiple channels and tracks of midi with just one instance, so if you put your auv3s on different channels in aum, they can each be controlled with their own midi data from one instance of xequence. Maybe up to16 channels I believe. So you don't need multiple xequence's unless you're doing some really crazy 4D chess kind of composing.

    The only downside I find to this setup is I have to save both in aum and xequence seperately, and I have to switch between xequence and aum via the home button.

    Imma link you something:

    This is an excellent example of how xequence plays with aum. It's a decent workflow, best I've been able to come up with for sticking mostly in aum. But it does come dangerously close to being a traditional daw, and there's very few things I can do with that setup that I can't do in nanostudio 2 or cubasis 2 [mostly program change, auv3 fx automation, and sending generative midi from an app to xequence and then back to another app].

    I don't really know much about atom,
    but it looks really cool and gets used a lot from what I can tell.

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