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Imogen Heap vocoder effect

so I can’t seem to get this effect figured out on Ios or desktop. what vocoder and harmonizer is she using? Does anybody have any ideas? I’m sure Drambo can do it ? right right?

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  • From what I remember she used a Digitech Vocalist Workstation...

  • I think I remember her using (or being a fan of) an old iOS app called Improvox. It was a fantastic app but it never got updated to 64 bit.

  • @lasselu said:
    From what I remember she used a Digitech Vocalist Workstation...

    cool i’ll look into that one. thanks

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    I think I remember her using (or being a fan of) an old iOS app called Improvox. It was a fantastic app but it never got updated to 64 bit.

    It was a DigiTech vocalist on the record. A good article with quotes from her can be found at

    http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/imogen-heap/

    That is pitch-shifted vocals played live as she sang not vocoders synth on the track. She is playing the polyphonic pitch-shifting on the keyboard. The magic is as much her chord voicings (which are hellacool) as the tech.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @NoiseHorse said:
    I think I remember her using (or being a fan of) an old iOS app called Improvox. It was a fantastic app but it never got updated to 64 bit.

    It was a DigiTech vocalist on the record. A good article with quotes from her can be found at

    http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2010/imogen-heap/

    That is pitch-shifted vocals played live as she sang not vocoders synth on the track. She is playing the polyphonic pitch-shifting on the keyboard. The magic is as much her chord voicings (which are hellacool) as the tech.

    oh cool, thanks for the link.

  • so i guess i’m looking for more of a variable pitch shifting plugin. that can be played like a piano. is there anything like that on ios or even desktop plugin?

  • Easily one of my all time favorite artists.

  • edited February 2021

    The sound design seems tricky to make it sound this good... but the basic framework can be done in AUM with a primary vocal track (no pitch shift) and a second track with the harmonies.

    For the harmonies, I like what DerVoco can do for live- played MIDI input (a keyboard) pitch shifting. I’m sure there are other options too.

    Then the magic is in what you do with DerVoco’s output. The reverb and delay on Imogen’s track are so dreamy.

    Also:
    ...not to diminish Imogen’s skills, but hearing her track her makes me think it was inspiration for that Taylor Swift album that had a lot of this type of vocals. What was it called.... “Delicate” i think was one of the tracks

  • @Hmtx said:
    The sound design seems tricky to make it sound this good... but the basic framework can be done in AUM with a primary vocal track (no pitch shift) and a second track with the harmonies.

    For the harmonies, I like what DerVoco can do for live- played MIDI input (a keyboard) pitch shifting. I’m sure there are other options too.

    Then the magic is in what you do with DerVoco’s output. The reverb and delay on Imogen’s track are so dreamy.

    Also:
    ...not to diminish Imogen’s skills, but hearing her track her makes me think it was inspiration for that Taylor Swift album that had a lot of this type of vocals. What was it called.... “Delicate” i think was one of the tracks

    I wouldn't think that DerVoco would sound like this. Isn't DerVoco a vododer? Vocoding is very different from pitch-shifting.

    One of the things impressive about Hide and Seek was that it was an improvisation that was a dialog between her and this machine she didn't know well -- reading that interview there were magic accidents because the pitch-shifter has only four note polyphony but Heap was playing chords with more voices -- and the pitch-shifter picked which notes to play -- and as she was playing she was discovering on-the-fly how the DigiTech would respond and being inspired in her note choices by what was happening.

  • @eross said:
    so i guess i’m looking for more of a variable pitch shifting plugin. that can be played like a piano. is there anything like that on ios or even desktop plugin?

    Yes indeed! Harmonizr. Great app.

  • @espiegel123 said:
    I wouldn't think that DerVoco would sound like this. Isn't DerVoco a vododer? Vocoding is very different from pitch-shifting.

    Ah, yep of course. What are the iOS options then?

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @eross said:
    so i guess i’m looking for more of a variable pitch shifting plugin. that can be played like a piano. is there anything like that on ios or even desktop plugin?

    Yes indeed! Harmonizr. Great app.

    cool is it ipad only. i’m not seeing it i. the app store on my iphone

  • @Hmtx said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    I wouldn't think that DerVoco would sound like this. Isn't DerVoco a vododer? Vocoding is very different from pitch-shifting.

    Ah, yep of course. What are the iOS options then?

    Someone suggested Harmonizr which I’ve not used.

  • Harmonizr is an awesome app. That developer needs to make more

  • edited February 2021

    I’ll look at Harmonizr. Somehow I thought there would be more apps that could do this.

    I wondered about 4Pockets Vocal Soloist. It is monophonic, (but it will track and pitch to external MIDI note input).
    Maybe it would be possible to stack multiple instances together with something like Mosaic for sending one note to each instance.

  • @Hmtx said:
    I’ll look at Harmonizr. Somehow I thought there would be more apps that could do this.

    I wondered about 4Pockets Vocal Soloist. It is monophonic, (but it will track and pitch to external MIDI note input).
    Maybe it would be possible to stack multiple instances together with something like Mosaic for sending one note to each instance.

    To my ears Vocal Soloist doesn't sound great for this sort of pitch-shifting.

  • edited February 2021

    I would try Roxsyn. It has three voices and a lot of crazy stuff.

    I would also play with MIDI Guitar into QuantiChord.

  • @Hmtx said:
    I’ll look at Harmonizr. Somehow I thought there would be more apps that could do this.

    Harmonizr is it for now. It's a ridiculous value. You'd have to pay hundreds to get an app like this on desktop. My only complaint is that it glitches occasionally when I sing too many harmonics. But that just adds character, right?

    Here are some things i made with it. The third track is the only one I used midi input on. The others just use Harmonizer's chord setting:

  • oh yeah, i have roxsyn i’m gonna try that. thanks for the suggestion

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @Hmtx said:
    I’ll look at Harmonizr. Somehow I thought there would be more apps that could do this.

    Harmonizr is it for now. It's a ridiculous value. You'd have to pay hundreds to get an app like this on desktop. My only complaint is that it glitches occasionally when I sing too many harmonics. But that just adds character, right?

    Here are some things i made with it. The third track is the only one I used midi input on. The others just use Harmonizer's chord setting:

    Very cool. Thanks for posting.

  • @eross said:
    oh yeah, i have roxsyn i’m gonna try that. thanks for the suggestion

    Roxsyn might sound cool, but it won’t give you the effect in that Imogen Heap song.

  • Very good use of Harmonizr @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr
    Thanks for sharing.

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