Where’s Roli?... Soon, maybe

mrufino1

@Clueless said:

@LinearLineman said:
@AlmostAnonymous, the thing is indestructible! I want one!

Indeed that is true. Not that I tried these things with my Seaboard Rise but it is really build like a tank and the material is high quality and feels so. If I would trow it into the wall, my wall maybe bricks and the Seaboard just laughs.
The hardware is really awesome (if it not failed or is faulty like mine but got fast a replacement) but the software and especially the dashboard to set-it up is supper buggy. And why the hell seems no one makes these dashboard/editing software for iOS because if I want to change something but want to use it for an iOS app, I have to use the Mac, connect it and change things, then go back to the iOS device...wait, I wan to change some other things....back to the Mac, oh dashboard did not save the changes and mixed something up.....mhhhh, forget that thing...put it in the corner...maybe my cat use it as scratch tree.

I’m not sure if this works for the seaboard rise or just the blocks, but I can confirm that it works well with the light pad block M.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/block-dashboard/id1469611330

Oh, and if Roli was sidelined by switching to making PPA, I’m all for that. Great job by them as a company then.

Gavinski

@LinearLineman
Seaboard is far from indestructible
At least the Block. The silicon started peeling away from the sides of my blocks in some places within mere months of purchase, despite almost never leaving the house and being treated with care

@Clueless there is a 3rd party version of dashboard for iPad. But yes, Roli should have made one. You could tweak strike, glide etc in Roli Noise itself. I vaguely remember that this didn't solve the need to sometimes use the desktop dashboard app but can't remember why. Can you?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/block-dashboard/id1469611330

Clueless

@Gavinski said:
@LinearLineman
Seaboard is far from indestructible
At least the Block. The silicon started peeling away from the sides of my blocks in some places within mere months of purchase, despite almost never leaving the house and being treated with care

@Clueless there is a 3rd party version of dashboard for iPad. But yes, Roli should have made one. You could tweak strike, glide etc in Roli Noise itself. I vaguely remember that this didn't solve the need to sometimes use the desktop dashboard app but can't remember why. Can you?

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/block-dashboard/id1469611330

I think the Rise has a bit better material and quality as the block from what I heard, I just never saw a block and even wished I gone for the Rise 49. I just have the 25 and it really not enough for nice playing, especially 2 hand chords. For solo instruments like SWAM it is great i think and I wanted something small. This thing weights a lot. almost as you have a brick of Metall in your hand.
I still have some trouble with smooth glides and slides since I tend to push to hard while sliding/gliding and the rubber will rear up. If I want really smooth X, Y and Z axis movements my iPhone with 3D touch works better but I really need tactile feedback and a great velocity, velocity release sensivity and here the Seaboard is of course much much better.
I also like the 3 sliders where you can switch fast between midi CC or use them to set the sensivity for slide, glide and pressure. But as the XY pad they sometimes are not responsive enough and I have to push them harder and slide. Not great with my raw handworker fingers.
So not everything is perfect but I still like it to use even as normal midi keyboard (means in non-MPE mode just using velocity and maybe aftertouch) more than normal keys. I heard some do not like the feel of the material at all, I like it so far. Its also my only midi keyboard I own anymore. Otherwise I play midi in just via the computer keyboard which works great for me and in this case I just use random values for things like velocity or use a slider/switch for more control over velocity. It can works really great if you get used to it. I much prefer it over playing on a flat glass screen and so I wished all iOS DAW´s would support a general midi input via a keyboard like Logic f.e.
I saw Drambo does it but it seems not to work with my German keyboard layout and whatever I set I cannot use octave down but just octave up (because of the Z and Y). So far there is no working solution for this on iOS I found, especially not if you use an iPhone.
The other thing is in MPE mode I have often disconnections happening with the Rise 25, on iOS and Mac. It seems it cannot handle the midi stream for long and so I mostly just can use it connected with the cable. In normal mode it works fine, as well as in MPE mono mode or if I play not too fast in polyphonic mode with MPE.
Its all a mixed bag and I wonder when we see first thing using the mysterious midi 2.0.
I know something like the Continuum and I think the Osmose use MPE+, not sure what the + does more here as MPE.

LinearLineman

Roli Seaboard Block and Rise are both available now thru Zzounds. Not sure where else.

johnfromberkeley

These cases fit the light pads for a lot less than Roli’s:

https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=83765

_smund

Do you guys know why sometimes Seaboard lets me glide Chords In MPE mode and sometimes doesn’t?
I was going to ask why there is no gliding chords in MpE mode but then suddenly it let me (though it’s off again now lol)
-Why is there more jitter with Gliding in multi channel than single channel? Is it cuz every key has a Midi channel that is being “over ridden”, or is it the bluetoots, too much info?
Gilding chords is my favorite function, and since I find it more stable in single channel mode I am wondering what I am missing running it in single channel.
Plz halp.
Thanks(:

I’m mostly on Moog model 15, Volt gets hung keys for me and is not as expressive with SLIDE CC74 yet, maybe y’all have a trick for me?
Moving on to Model D(it let me glide in MPE a sec ago)