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Quinta Pitch Machine - Daveypoo, The Mobile Music Minstrel

Let's get pitchy with Quinta Pitch Machine!

Comments

  • Very cool, D-poo.
    That is a fat sound you have created.
    Love that yell at the end.
    🤙🏻

  • Sounds great!
    Very creative sound!
    Bravo Dave!
    Flo

  • Thanks guys - this old dog's always looking for new tricks!

  • I was going to skip this Effect purchase but being able to add these overtones for some
    extra beef is too hard to pass up. I even went through my catalog of pitch effects and tried to
    get these extra sounds and just couldn't get close.

    I think it's going to be great for guitar too. One-finger power chord riffs.

    Thanks for taking the time to put together the demo. It's also nice to see the bass players
    get a little attention and a nice effect.

  • @McD said:
    I was going to skip this Effect purchase but being able to add these overtones for some
    extra beef is too hard to pass up. I even went through my catalog of pitch effects and tried to
    get these extra sounds and just couldn't get close.

    I think it's going to be great for guitar too. One-finger power chord riffs.

    Thanks for taking the time to put together the demo. It's also nice to see the bass players
    get a little attention and a nice effect.

    It was a bit of a challenge to do more than the obvious tricks here. I have a number of go-to octave sounds from years of using my Boss OC-2, none of which sounded good with Quinta, so it forced me to take advantage of routings I'd not have used if not for apeMatrix. Love that app to bits.

  • I bought Quinta the minute it came out. Badly needed a good octaver.
    I have a huge problem with it, maybe someone can comment... I feel it has a terrible latency, like it sounds out of sync if setting it to 100% wet and just octave sound, unusable. Tested in Zenbeats, but I don’t see how it can be the daw’s fault.

  • @tahiche I found there to be considerable latency also. Not sure the solution but it's pretty noticeable.

  • @tahiche said:
    I bought Quinta the minute it came out. Badly needed a good octaver.
    I have a huge problem with it, maybe someone can comment... I feel it has a terrible latency, like it sounds out of sync if setting it to 100% wet and just octave sound, unusable. Tested in Zenbeats, but I don’t see how it can be the daw’s fault.

    Latency is a given with any thing that's going to accept sound in and add extra sound in sync with that sound.

    I measure the latency of this app at 44 millseconds.

    The lowest note on my piano has a frequency of 55.5 Hertz and a single cycle takes 18 milliseconds.

    So, the programmer needs 18 milliseconds to detect the second crossing of zero that defines a periodic pattern. Then while the second cycle occurs the +/1 octaves and 5th waveforms are rendered into a buffer and added on the 3 iteration of the source A0 (55.5 Hz) signal. That would be 36 milliseconds after the source.

    New we could reduce latency by allowing the process to work effectively only on higher frequencies
    but it's wise to make this app work great on the lower end too because @daveypoo proves that bass players want to fire the guitar player and play power chords and take solos.

    Any app that tries to detect and process sound will be required to wait, process and deliver. The wait is dependent on how low you want to be effective and the processing takes up the second cycle and then you deliver... to start being effective at A=440 you'd still wait 4.5 milliseconds but you'd have to filter out everything below that frequency to capture the zero crossovers effectively.

    Quinta acts like the draw bars of a Organ to add octave, 5th and sub-octave. On higher instruments it makes everything sound like an organ. Go figure.

  • What size buffers did you try when measuring latency? Does it get better with smaller buffers?

  • @espiegel123 said:
    What size buffers did you try when measuring latency? Does it get better with smaller buffers?

    Where should I check? In AUM or IOS?

  • @McD said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    What size buffers did you try when measuring latency? Does it get better with smaller buffers?

    Where should I check? In AUM or IOS?

    Whatever host you are using.

  • McDMcD
    edited February 2021

    @espiegel123 said:

    @McD said:

    @espiegel123 said:
    What size buffers did you try when measuring latency? Does it get better with smaller buffers?

    Where should I check? In AUM or IOS?

    Whatever host you are using.

    AUM with 256 Frames Buffer Size and Sample Rate 44.1KHz. and Min Latency 0 ms.
    I'll see what 64 Frames does to the results.

    UPDATE: Smaller Frame sizes increase the latency into the 50's and the larger frame sizes top out at 40 ms. I'd guess process a lot of frames quickly tales away CPU cycles from the
    AUv3 app(s) so the processing of the overtones takes longer.

    Some of the presets drive it up into the 100 ms range. I'm sure that would drive a guitarist crazy.

    It's still the best of the available Octavers, IMHO and the extra +/- octave and extra 5th make it a generally useful tool for creating that power chord sound... it does make an extra Organ out of my usual suspects like Module Pro and BeatHawk's acoustic instruments and choirs.

  • edited February 2021

    @Daveypoo said:
    @tahiche I found there to be considerable latency also. Not sure the solution but it's pretty noticeable.

    Looks like this beautiful thing is yet to be dethroned.

    I’ve never experienced any octavers that tracked or sounded close to this thing. It tracks my mother-32 with all kinds of crazy timbral stuff going on all the way down into the low octave of its range without latency. Unreal!

  • What else you got on that table? A Memory Man? Enigma Q Balls? What's the synth off to the right?

  • @Daveypoo said:
    Let's get pitchy with Quinta Pitch Machine!

    A+ job, thank you!

  • edited February 2021

    @Daveypoo said:
    What else you got on that table? A Memory Man? Enigma Q Balls? What's the synth off to the right?

    Memory Man With Hazarai -- an absolutely awesome stereo digital delay variant of the Memory Man with lots of creative modes and extra bells and whistles. I run that on an FX loop with a couple of different in front for fun delays.

    Enigma Q Balls I mainly use to lowpass a Moog DFAM (top right), which I find has a little more noise bleed on it's VCA than I'd prefer. I also use the overdrive on it when I want distorted DFAM.

    The synth in shot is a Mother-32, which is what the octaver processes. Guitar monophonic octavers and monophonic synths go together soooo weeelllll. I see a lot of people running the M32 through fancy reverb pedals but I much prefer to keep it low and dirty.

    All the old beat up guitar pedals that have lived in my guitar cases for the years of pure iOS explorations have come out and found new homes on my desktop this year.

  • @OscarSouth I've got a soft spot for guitar pedals - those are sweet.

    @Montreal_Music Thanks!

  • @Daveypoo great video as always. Always something to learn from you.

    @tahiche I opened up Quinta last week with my bass, and the latency was quite noticeable even at 96Khz and 128 buffer. Revisited tonight both standalone and in AUM with my guitar with the same sample rate and buffer, and the latency was much better, almost undetectable. So I noticed that it’s specifically the -1 Octave that’s behind, like the “Bass Guitar” preset for example. Also for some reason the “High Q” switch actually adds latency when activated. Without the -1 Octave and High Q switch off, I can barely detect it. It’s really weird. Anyone notice this?

    @McD I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Harmonizer rack from TH-U. It’s a two voice instead of three, but it can do what Quinta does with the sub octave and a fifth above, and much more. They sound really similar actually. The latency there is non existent, and the polyphonic sound is actually much more stable and gratifying imho. However, you can’t turn off the major/minor mode, so there will always be one polyphonic chord in the scale that has an annoying dissonance, but just one. I know it’s kind of dumb using a giant guitar app just for one effect, but when it comes to an Octaver it’s my favorite on iOS since it can be set exactly like one, or set to harmonizing if you want. The other octave pedals in th-u are monophonic and have warble and aren’t as good.

    I love and own everything Nembrini puts out, maybe the -1 Octave lagging behind will be addressed. Otherwise it’s better suited to processing post record rather than in the moment.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    @McD I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Harmonizer rack from TH-U.

    I went through all the FX in the Pitch category and I can see now that it opened scrolled down and I missed the harmonizer. I'll check it out for against the Quinta. I suspect TH-U
    remember the positioning in a scrollable pop-up.

    RE: TH-U Harmonizer.

    CONS:

    It cheats and forces you to select a scale. That's limiting compared to
    Quinta for the +/- 1 octave and it only produces 2 extra frequencies.

    PROS:

    Audible delay but the resulting audio files don't show an emphazied echo transient.
    It's buried in the wash of the fundamental pulse. But I can hear it when it's on and see it disappear when I turn it off.

    Harmonizer can provide chords from a selected scale and provide any 2 intervals. That's very cool and I'm glad I have both for each having a unique approach.

    Igor Nembrini loves to shred metal and it shows in his products. We're still waiting for a classic Fender Amp because it's just not his jam. I could see hi flipping on the Quinta and getting a massive tone for his style of playing. I don't consider the one Fender Amp to have the classic Fender Tube tone I covet and my favorite TH-U amps turned out to be the Polytone clone and the LynchBox Clean. There are several Clean amps in the product that
    work for my particular itch. But I'm going through a Bill Frizell stage... clean with limiting vibrato to when it really matters and not just a habit. So, my jam is not likely to be yours.

    The TH-U catalogue is much broader and comparing these two companies is a bit like comparing Audio Damage to Korg. More employees... more revenue... and one is more of
    a personal approach to music apps.

    NOTE: If the cost is killing you... get the free Amp Sim that only charges you to save configs.

  • @McD said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    @McD I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Harmonizer rack from TH-U.

    I went through all the FX in the Pitch category and I can see now that it opened scrolled down and I missed the harmonizer. I'll check it out for against the Quinta. I suspect TH-U
    remember the positioning in a scrollable pop-up.

    RE: TH-U Harmonizer.

    CONS:

    It cheats and forces you to select a scale. That's limiting compared to
    Quinta for the +/- 1 octave and it only produces 2 extra frequencies.

    PROS:

    Audible delay but the resulting audio files don't show an emphazied echo transient.
    It's buried in the wash of the fundamental pulse. But I can hear it when it's on and see it disappear when I turn it off.

    Harmonizer can provide chords from a selected scale and provide any 2 intervals. That's very cool and I'm glad I have both for each having a unique approach.

    Igor Nembrini loves to shred metal and it shows in his products. We're still waiting for a classic Fender Amp because it's just not his jam. I could see hi flipping on the Quinta and getting a massive tone for his style of playing. I don't consider the one Fender Amp to have the classic Fender Tube tone I covet and my favorite TH-U amps turned out to be the Polytone clone and the LynchBox Clean. There are several Clean amps in the product that
    work for my particular itch. But I'm going through a Bill Frizell stage... clean with limiting vibrato to when it really matters and not just a habit. So, my jam is not likely to be yours.

    The TH-U catalogue is much broader and comparing these two companies is a bit like comparing Audio Damage to Korg. More employees... more revenue... and one is more of
    a personal approach to music apps.

    NOTE: If the cost is killing you... get the free Amp Sim that only charges you to save configs.

    Thanks for checking it out, I agree they’re not quite the same thing, Quinta more free form, but at 96Khz/128 buffer I have no latency with harmonizer and plenty with Quinta, so simply wanted to point out that it’s possible to achieve near zero delay even if the app has to receive the sound and then change the octave. The polyphonic chords tonally and texturally sound quite identical. I also like FAC Chorus for this, it has a great preset that adds a fifth.

    You know I’m hot for th-u but I will make this controversial statement. When using my own IRs, Nembrini sounds better. My favorite most unbeatable tone and feel for months has been a bypassed BST100 with an IR in Thafknar, usually an OwnHammer Vox IR. It can’t be beat for me, though some of the th-u rigs are right up there.

    I like the Poly and LynchBox clean also, as well as the Lynch tweed. Have you tried the Lab5 clean? It’s similar to the Poly.

    Sorry for hijacking this @Daveypoo, also nice P-Bass! It’s the 🐐 of basses. I’ve got a buttercream maple MIM bought just last year.

  • @Daveypoo said:
    Let's get pitchy with Quinta Pitch Machine!

    I think it’s funny that once I found you passed out clutching a bottle tequila in a La Quinta Inn, and now you are doing this video.

  • @johnfromberkeley said:

    @Daveypoo said:
    Let's get pitchy with Quinta Pitch Machine!

    I think it’s funny that once I found you passed out clutching a bottle tequila in a La Quinta Inn, and now you are doing this video.

    Hey man - what happens in Fresno stays in Fresno.

  • @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    @Daveypoo great video as always. Always something to learn from you.

    @tahiche I opened up Quinta last week with my bass, and the latency was quite noticeable even at 96Khz and 128 buffer. Revisited tonight both standalone and in AUM with my guitar with the same sample rate and buffer, and the latency was much better, almost undetectable. So I noticed that it’s specifically the -1 Octave that’s behind, like the “Bass Guitar” preset for example. Also for some reason the “High Q” switch actually adds latency when activated. Without the -1 Octave and High Q switch off, I can barely detect it. It’s really weird. Anyone notice this?

    @McD I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Harmonizer rack from TH-U. It’s a two voice instead of three, but it can do what Quinta does with the sub octave and a fifth above, and much more. They sound really similar actually. The latency there is non existent, and the polyphonic sound is actually much more stable and gratifying imho. However, you can’t turn off the major/minor mode, so there will always be one polyphonic chord in the scale that has an annoying dissonance, but just one. I know it’s kind of dumb using a giant guitar app just for one effect, but when it comes to an Octaver it’s my favorite on iOS since it can be set exactly like one, or set to harmonizing if you want. The other octave pedals in th-u are monophonic and have warble and aren’t as good.

    I love and own everything Nembrini puts out, maybe the -1 Octave lagging behind will be addressed. Otherwise it’s better suited to processing post record rather than in the moment.

    @McD the strange thing in my case is that the latency happens also when processing AFTER recording. I have a guitar loop in Zenbeats, apply Quinta with just the octave down 100% wet to make a bass, and it’s off sync with the drums. It clearly lags behind. I do the same with , say Drambo pitch shifter and it’s fine, no lag.
    I’d be surprised. But could it be it’s made for “accompanying” a lead guitar, and not made to sound 100% wet?. In that case the latency or delay wouldn’t be critical. I have to say that this latency or lag is not consistent, seems like sometimes it’s more evident. It certainly makes it unusable in my case which is a shame cos it’s the best sounding octave down I’ve found...
    @JoyceRoadStudios i don’t know if you remember but we’ve talked about THU octave before, the warbly terrible foot pedal one. I’m curious about the big one but very doubtful about investing anything in THU after their response regarding the unusable Octaver which they claimed to be an exact replica and didn’t even get the model right. So the question... if using THU just for one pedal, is it CPU intensive?.

  • edited February 2021

    @tahiche said:

    @JoyceRoadStudios said:
    @Daveypoo great video as always. Always something to learn from you.

    @tahiche I opened up Quinta last week with my bass, and the latency was quite noticeable even at 96Khz and 128 buffer. Revisited tonight both standalone and in AUM with my guitar with the same sample rate and buffer, and the latency was much better, almost undetectable. So I noticed that it’s specifically the -1 Octave that’s behind, like the “Bass Guitar” preset for example. Also for some reason the “High Q” switch actually adds latency when activated. Without the -1 Octave and High Q switch off, I can barely detect it. It’s really weird. Anyone notice this?

    @McD I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Harmonizer rack from TH-U. It’s a two voice instead of three, but it can do what Quinta does with the sub octave and a fifth above, and much more. They sound really similar actually. The latency there is non existent, and the polyphonic sound is actually much more stable and gratifying imho. However, you can’t turn off the major/minor mode, so there will always be one polyphonic chord in the scale that has an annoying dissonance, but just one. I know it’s kind of dumb using a giant guitar app just for one effect, but when it comes to an Octaver it’s my favorite on iOS since it can be set exactly like one, or set to harmonizing if you want. The other octave pedals in th-u are monophonic and have warble and aren’t as good.

    I love and own everything Nembrini puts out, maybe the -1 Octave lagging behind will be addressed. Otherwise it’s better suited to processing post record rather than in the moment.

    @McD the strange thing in my case is that the latency happens also when processing AFTER recording. I have a guitar loop in Zenbeats, apply Quinta with just the octave down 100% wet to make a bass, and it’s off sync with the drums. It clearly lags behind. I do the same with , say Drambo pitch shifter and it’s fine, no lag.
    I’d be surprised. But could it be it’s made for “accompanying” a lead guitar, and not made to sound 100% wet?. In that case the latency or delay wouldn’t be critical. I have to say that this latency or lag is not consistent, seems like sometimes it’s more evident. It certainly makes it unusable in my case which is a shame cos it’s the best sounding octave down I’ve found...
    @JoyceRoadStudios i don’t know if you remember but we’ve talked about THU octave before, the warbly terrible foot pedal one. I’m curious about the big one but very doubtful about investing anything in THU after their response regarding the unusable Octaver which they claimed to be an exact replica and didn’t even get the model right. So the question... if using THU just for one pedal, is it CPU intensive?.

    @tahiche not cpu intensive at all, certainly under 10% in AUM. I enjoy putting th-u app as the pedal platform in front of other amps like Nembrini. When th-u app is loaded but empty, it’s a completely transparent bypassed sound just like AUM before you load anything. You could calibrate the master volume and input sensitivity in the menu if you wanted, but I like to make a huge pedal chain in there. Empty app shows 1%-8% cpu in AUM, a rig with an IR and 15 pedals shows 8% with an occasional spike to 25%, on an iPhone 11. iPad lower.

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