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Curious about Wolfgang Palm's Infinite app

gkillmastergkillmaster
in General App Discussion

1) Do you like, love or feel indifferent?
2) Does it still work ok?

The support seems to be dwindling. I have the desktop version of Wavemapper 2 and it hasn't been useable since Catalina (OSX). So I worry it may stop working without support and updates...

Thanks!

Greg

Comments

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited March 2021

    Hopefully the company that bought Palm’s apps will reintroduce them to the world soon...

    http://wolfgangpalm.com/

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    Minimapper iOS still works for me.

  • gusgranitegusgranite
    edited March 2021

    PPG synths are not available to buy on the AppStore any more. As of now, it is over. Plugin Alliance acquired the rights to the desktop synths [edit: or acquired the company] and have not indicated they will support iOS. I have asked them to at least keep the synths available with minimal support but so far no go and that was months ago. Please contact Plugin Alliance and let them know.

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @gusgranite said:
    PPG synths are not available to buy on the AppStore any more. As of now, it is over. Plugin Alliance acquired the rights to the desktop synths and have not indicated they will support iOS. I have asked them to at least keep the synths available with minimal support but so far no go and that was months ago. Please contact Plugin Alliance and let them know.

    Thanks for the info. Too bad! I did hear back from Plugin Alliance when I wrote them a few weeks ago and they could not give me an ETA on any desktop updates could be this month or a year from now or later. But I'll write and request IOS continuation!

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    I sent them an email, response:

    Hello,

    thank you for your e-mail.

    I'm out of office from March 1st 2021 and will be back on March 8th 2021. I will respond to your e-mail as soon as possible on my return.

    With important topics, please contact mailto:[email protected].

    Best regards

    Patricia Berngen
    Brainworx Audio GmbH

    Hopefully there is a future for these apps on iOS once again.

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @gusgranite said:
    PPG synths are not available to buy on the AppStore any more. As of now, it is over. Plugin Alliance acquired the rights to the desktop synths [edit: or acquired the company] and have not indicated they will support iOS. I have asked them to at least keep the synths available with minimal support but so far no go and that was months ago. Please contact Plugin Alliance and let them know.

    I still can’t wrap my head around this. Years of work put into these apps and then one day he sells it all to a company which clearly has no intention of keeping any of it alive. Baffling.

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike
    edited March 2021

    @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @gusgranite said:
    PPG synths are not available to buy on the AppStore any more. As of now, it is over. Plugin Alliance acquired the rights to the desktop synths [edit: or acquired the company] and have not indicated they will support iOS. I have asked them to at least keep the synths available with minimal support but so far no go and that was months ago. Please contact Plugin Alliance and let them know.

    I still can’t wrap my head around this. Years of work put into these apps and then one day he sells it all to a company which clearly has no intention of keeping any of it alive. Baffling.

    Maybe he needed the money. These apps are so great! They should be available. It’s like a big record company shelving a great album 😭

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    I truly agree with the frustration. Apps like Waldorf Nave and the Wolfgang Palm apps are fantastic and will sell, but they have ended up being abandonware of sorts. At least Nave is still live on the App Store.

  • ApexApex

    @gkillmaster said:
    1) Do you like, love or feel indifferent?
    2) Does it still work ok?

    The support seems to be dwindling. I have the desktop version of Wavemapper 2 and it hasn't been useable since Catalina (OSX). So I worry it may stop working without support and updates...

    Thanks!

    Greg

    1) Love, but admittedly I’m a PPG fanboy from way back.
    2) Still working for me here 🤞🏻 But I suspect one day it won’t. 😢

  • Philandering_BastardPhilandering_Bastard

    @Stuntman_mike said:

    @Philandering_Bastard said:

    @gusgranite said:
    PPG synths are not available to buy on the AppStore any more. As of now, it is over. Plugin Alliance acquired the rights to the desktop synths [edit: or acquired the company] and have not indicated they will support iOS. I have asked them to at least keep the synths available with minimal support but so far no go and that was months ago. Please contact Plugin Alliance and let them know.

    I still can’t wrap my head around this. Years of work put into these apps and then one day he sells it all to a company which clearly has no intention of keeping any of it alive. Baffling.

    Maybe he needed the money. These apps are so great! They should be available. It’s like a big record company shelving a great album 😭

    I don’t begrudge him the money, far from it. I hope he spends his retirement making it rain or whatever floats his boat. It just seems weird that he sold his IP to someone who doesn’t seem to want to do anything with it.

  • gkillmastergkillmaster

    @Apex said:

    @gkillmaster said:
    1) Do you like, love or feel indifferent?
    2) Does it still work ok?

    The support seems to be dwindling. I have the desktop version of Wavemapper 2 and it hasn't been useable since Catalina (OSX). So I worry it may stop working without support and updates...

    Thanks!

    Greg

    1) Love, but admittedly I’m a PPG fanboy from way back.
    2) Still working for me here 🤞🏻 But I suspect one day it won’t. 😢

    I wish I could get my hands on it.!

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  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    @tja said:
    I always had the Apps on my To-Buy list, but was waiting for some sale.
    At least i got Infinite, of the bunch.

    The developer could have given some warning, before simply removing them.
    Very bad behavior.

    Yeah it was a bummer because I went to buy the rest of the collection and they were gone! I just finished reading the website descriptions and went back the website had the message that the apps were sold. At least I have Minimapper.

  • Prog1967Prog1967

    I have three of their apps Infinite, Wavemapper, and Phonem. All of them are working well and are a joy to play but I have not updated my Ipad since IOS 13. Three different quality beasts

  • reasOnereasOne

    So sad to see these apps die so fast

  • JohnnyGoodyearJohnnyGoodyear

    Nave is on the old-ipad-never-update. Lovely thing.

  • rs2000rs2000

    Got Infinite and Wavemapper on Windows and I'm sure that if they stop running under the latest Win version one day, I can still have them working on a virtual machine.

  • CharlesalbertCharlesalbert

    I have all three apps and they working fine on iOS 14.5 beta

  • SpartanClownTideSpartanClownTide

    @Charlesalbert said:
    I have all three apps and they working fine on iOS 14.5 beta

    Thanks for mentioning this! I have other reservations about jumping into iOS 14 but the idea of it breaking my PPG stuff was the number one concern. This is good to know.

  • charalewcharalew

    Infinite is great in terms of signed but even after spending quite a long time I struggled to understand the UI. There are now plenty of other really good Wavetable options though. Still have it installed but don't really use it anymore

  • Stuntman_mikeStuntman_mike

    Good morning everyone, here is the respond I received from my email:

    Hi Michael,

    Thank you for your mail and your interest in Wolfgang Palms products.

    It is right that he passed his portfolio to us, but we don’t know when we will release them for external use.

    To be up to date, please feel free to subscribe to our newsletter on http://www.plugin-alliance.com. As soon as we have a release date for his products, we will announce it there.

    Thank you for your understanding.
    Best wishes
    Patricia
    BX-Team

  • FantomiosFantomios

    I keep an old iPad pro 2018 for all these applications - I have them all and for me they are a completely different approach to sound creation. I am myself a computer scientist specialized in signal processing and these represent the materialization of my student dreams. Of course, Infinite is a huge complexity achievement using deep optimization to achieve these wonders in almost real time (IOS 11 !!!). I also can say that I couldn’t find any other IOS app so deeply involved in sound creation and processing. Just informing the interested ones that could not see them: they request deep understanding of sound components and might request some preliminary study. The « presets » are more illustrating what the beast(s) can do than being directly usable.

  • SamuSamu

    All the PPG apps still work but can NOT be re-downloaded from the AppStore...

  • CarnbotCarnbot

    @Samu said:
    All the PPG apps still work but can NOT be re-downloaded from the AppStore...

    I did manage to get them with Imazing recently, not sure if that’s still possible though…

  • TelefunkyTelefunky

    Same here, I recently made a copy to the Mac Mini via iMazing just in case...
    (atm the PPGs are on 3 iPads here, 2 of them iPad1/2)
    IMazing did the download with Apple ID credentials, the „proper way“ as they call it and that took longer than typical downloads from the store. Probably a different archive location.
    At least for existing customers this solves the main problem, but it‘s a true pity this stuff isn‘t published to new customers any more.

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