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AUM app compatibility list
Hi, found the Audiobus one easy enough but not AUM
Need the following
Biasfx 2
Anytune
Tonebridge
Tonestack
GeLabs
Plus live guitar in
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If an app exists and it doesn't open in AUM, does it actually exist?
Now, that's a philosophical question... Seriously, though any AUv3 or IAA will work with AUM. As will any USB Class Compliant audio interface.
So when will IAA be phased out by Apple? Is it ok to update to IOS 14.4?
Don't want to lose my Korg Isynth apps as they cost a fortune and are incredibly good and there's more chance of world peace than Korg updating them to AUV3!
So no list? I have to find out if the app is IAA or AUV3 and it will work
I’ve checked and all work with audiobus with pretty pics too...lol
Tonebridge is an Au, I think GE is too
Bias is IAA
Tonestack is IAA
Yes live guitar in will work as long as you have an audio interface, or even use a microphone
I’ve never seen a list but as mentioned before if it’s Au or IAA you are good.
No one knows but it will certainly not be phased out in IOS 14. It could be around for many years...on MacOS some depreciated APIs took more than a decade to phase out. It seems unlikely that iOS 15 will phase out IAA.
If you are not already on iOS 14, you might not want to upgrade yet as iOS 14 is somewhat buggy for music/audio.
No specific AUM list is needed because AUM doesn’t have its own API. The reason for the Audiobus list is that AudioBus has an API that offers special extra features. So, it is useful to know which standalone apps make full use of the Audiobus framework (such as state-saving).
It’s all a bit complicated.
So which is the most future proof? Audiobus or AUM?
Either look much more than I need which is just live adjusting of all my apps individual volumes and possible EQ's
Looks like AUM has it all in one. But Audiobus will require buying extras like mimix and an EQ?
I know they’re not expensive but a free demo mode would help
Not that complicated. This is not a wedding.
I'd say they're equally future-proof. But, if you're like most of us, you'll eventually end up owning both apps.
Audiobus alone handles simple mixing of different effected sources. If you need internal busses for things like sends, AUM is more flexible.
I'm really not clear on your objective, playing one guitar through six amp sims? I think you'd do better picking one of the current versions and learning to tweak it, instead of flitting from amp to amp looking for ...
It would be simpler to create a list of apps that are not AUM/IAA compatible. There are very few.
Just about any app that is AUM/IAA compatible will also be "compatible" though not necessarily "optimized" for Audiobus.
Technically, Audiobus. If IAA ever disappears from iOS, the Audiobus developer plans to revert Audiobus to working the way it did before IAA came along. That means that any app that has the Audiobus software libraries implemented will continue to work.
IAA disappearing could be a long time from now, if ever. In the meantime, all those IAA apps may or may not keep being updated, so they may or may not keep functioning in either host. So, practically speaking, there really isn't as much difference between AB and AUM for the future as it may seem.
In that case I recommend Audiobus. It's simpler and has some super convenient features such as global start/stop, ability to switch between apps directly from anywhere and better MIDI Clock support.
However it doesn't have any way to record your audio. You need at least AudioShare or another Audiobus compatible recorder if you want to save your audio to files.
EQ, yes. MiMix, no for what you've said you need. Audiobus has a mixer built-in. You'd probably want an EQ for AUM as well. It has individual EQ plugins, but you need one for each frequency range you want to change. These are lightweight, but not as convenient for multi-band EQ as an all-in-one EQ plugin.
Won’t be using at same time but would like all up ready. At one time will be one amp sim and anytune.
Thanks wim I’m leaning towards Audiobus. Only one problem I can see is it doesn’t have a master volume?
True. Your iPad does though.
But yes, this could be an issue if you don't manage your gain staging and you get clipping on the main output.
Thank you for the in depth reply.
I am still on 13.5 have not encountered any issues with disappearing apps in AUM or crashes. I do want to update to 14.4 but it seems every time there is an update to IOS it brings along issues for us music makers. I only purchased my Ipad Pro to make music on but I feel Apple doesn't appreciate that many of us want to make serious music with an Ipad alone.
Btw what is an API?
Application Programming Interface. It's a collection of methods published by one program, like Audiobus, that allow another program to be more tightly integrated with it. Usually the client program includes a library provided by the API and communicates using it. iOS itself is packed with APIs supporting things like the Share sheet, and the magic of the Files app.
Free or cheap equaliser?
Nothing special just a couple of sliders
LRC5, ChannelEQ.
@Pacemaker1000 aside from the aforementioned API extras that Audiobus can offer, why would you need a compatibility list for AUM? It’s not AB3 nor AUM that’s the problem usually. I depend on both but will usually use AUM simply because I prefer the layout. The actual problem, in regards to the apps you listed, is that IAA apps like Bias and Ge Labs crash constantly, for me they crash all the time. No way would I trust them to be stable anywhere outside of standalone. As you move around and operate what you have inside AB3/AUM for workflow, and then keep having to switch out to those IAA apps, it’s constantly unstable. IAA can work of course but it’s fragile and the cpu spikes and gain stage headaches don’t help. AUv3 is just much more stable.
Specifically with GE Labs, it doesn’t even work outside of 44.1kHz which is its standalone default and only option. If you switch to 48/96kHz in AUM there’s always a terrible crackle and it’s unusable. Of course people want to work in 48/96, for actual legit reasons (oversampling, video, latency), so to me this means Ge Labs doesn’t implement oversampling properly if at all. Too bad because it’s a good app in standalone.
I can get maybe 2-4 minutes out of Bias as an IAA before it crashes. Both of these apps crash, in DAWs too.
So it’s a much bigger issue here than an AUM compatibility list. My limited understanding is that IAA apps seem to impose themselves whereas AUv3 apps yield themselves to the host they’re loaded in. And therein lies the difference in stability.
Cheers 👍
You have to forgive me I’m way out of my depth here so probably asking and talking rubbish
As said I’m probably only going to use this as a sledgehammer to crack an egg.
You’re all good! I’m quite a novice, but with lots of “trial and error” experience 😆
@JoyceRoadStudios : there are many uber-stable IAA apps and flaky, crashy AUv3.
I would not lay BIAS or GELabs on IAA as a whole. I think there is a tendency for people here to blame IAA for issues that are particular certain apps and not IAA as a whole.
Yes you are totally right, I use a few IAA that are quite stable, Tonestack for example. I suppose I was specifically addressing apps the OP listed.
Thanks
So far going good.
Only app can’t load is GE Labs?
Also haven’t worked out how to auto load las config?
Did you try launching GE Labs first and then adding to AUM?
Unfortunately IAA's don't save their "state" (the collection of control positions and/or the preset) when you save a project, unless you use them in Audiobus and they support the Audiobus state-saving feature.
Audio Units do (or are supposed to) save their state in the host project. That's one of the key features of AUv3 over IAA.
All you can do is to save a preset in the app, then take note of the name of the preset so that you can reload it later. One way to help remember this is to save the preset with the same name as the host session.
Using Audiobus not AUM
But will try that anyway
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