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Drum track ‘humanizer’ midi fx
I’m looking for an AUv3 midi fx app I can add to a midi fx slot in Cubasis which makes the drum tracks sound more like played by a human drummer. (I know the humanizer function in Sugarbytes’ DrumComputer, but I need an independent midi fx)
Does such app exist at all?
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AUv3
Does it work in Cubasis as AU fx or only in drambo?
It can be inserted as a midi effect so that it processes any incoming midi, even from external sources.
I’m not sure how Cubasis works with midi apps, but this one would work no differently from apps like Rozetta Scaler, for example.
Thank you @aleyas ! Now it’s somewhat a reason to get Drambo. However it would be like buy a Ferrari for taking the kids to the kindergarten. 😀😀😀
But once you sit inside your new Ferrari you spend time driving it to the bakery and washing salon too 😁
Thats a good analogy hahah. Well, there are a lot of simple things you could use the app for too: just using it as an FX unit (reverb, comb filters, phasers, flangers etc), or using some of it's midi effects to do neat things like create chords from single notes, transpose, arpeggiate, or strum your midi inputs. If nothing else, it's a good value for what it offers.
Cheers! 😁
Yes, but if you can afford it, why not?!
Yes if it was a real Ferrari I would definitely use it for other activities as well
Even though Drambo is probably a fantastic tool, the more videos I watch on drambo the more I feel it doesn’t fit my workflow. But maybe now I give it a chance.
@BCKeys ,
What is your main concern with the humanizators? Was the result still robotic? Or became too random?
As to Garageband, since it was my least used daw I deleted it because the lack of space on my iPad ☹️
@aleyas ,
What those knobs on drambo humanizer exactly do?
e.g. Offset randomizes the timing of the midi note event whithin that particular milliseconds you set by the knob?
Exactly, you got it. Offset will randomize the timing (delay) of each midi note from 0 to X millisconds (max value 100ms). A touch of this (say up to about 20ms) can really bring a drum pattern to life.
Ok, I’m not afraid that if I buy drambo I can’t put food on the family table.
The sad truth is I don’t use 90% of them. That’s why I’ve been deliberately trying to avoid new apps that I will probably not use.
I realized I became addicted of buying new music apps.
Ok, it looks a random delay, it responds to incoming midi events, which means it can not trigger the midi notes earlier than the playhead triggers them.
I think if I shifted the whole drum track a few milliseconds ahead I’ll get even better results with this humanizer. This way some notes will be played earlier as well not just delayed.
Check this out:
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/midi-echo-au/id1422324067
So what is a midi echo? It is similar to the audio echo effect where copies of the original audio are repeated at regular time intervals but with some form of change (e.g quieter). But unlike audio, midi is digital in nature (low resolution 8 bit mostly) and focused around the midi note on & off message used to control synths etc.
This app acts on midi note-on independently from the note-off but when the note - off appears it echoes the release of the note-on in the same way the note-on was echoed (pitch interval etc) even if the Ul controls have changed.
Ul Controls exist to allow you to:
Select the type of echo (fixed, ping pong, taper)
Vary the number of echoes (from 0 to 20)
Make echoes quieter by reducing the midi velocity
Define the pitch interval (semitone) of all successive echoes
Select the delay time between echoes either tempo sync or in mSec
Define the delay type (fixed, tempo, random 50, random 20)
Set the midi channel of echoes (1-16) so that other synths can select the echo only
Disable individual echoes - to allow you to play chords with a small or 0 delay
Set Midi thru to keep/remove the original note messages
Panic button to quickly turn off all notes
Setup control automation as all controls are AU Parameters
What about Streambyter? I can’t see how much it is as I already own it. Is it free now? https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/streambyter/id1398712641
Bram’s Mozaic has scripts for this as well of course and is a steal at under $10 https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mozaic-plugin-workshop/id1457962653
Fair enough. The thing about Drambo, at least for me is, that I haven’t bought any other apps since I have it. That makes it a great value for money. Of course you need to spend a bit of time to understand how it works but isn’t it what you have to do with other apps anyway, many times over?
Still, food on the table is a priority you cannot argue with. Good luck!
@GLacey - do you have Mozaic? If so then there are some scripts that would work for this. Nothing that can shift notes forward in time, but you already realized this.
https://patchstorage.com/ranbo-multi-channel-note-humanizer/
https://patchstorage.com/random-2/
... and others
Not sure why, but I get stuck notes with Ranbo.
With what app(s) and in what host? If the app/host I'll test.
No tests I've done so far indicate any potential for stuck notes, but maybe I missed something.
@wim Step poly arp unit through dranbo in AUM.
Humm ... lotta other potential causes for stuck notes in that combination. I don't think there's enough information for me to do any meaningful testing. I'd need the order of the apps, the Drambo project, and the target app (that's getting the stuck notes). If you have a simpler setup that produces stuck notes, please let me know.
I get stuck notes if I change the track before I release the key but not sure if this might be what you’re experiencing.
@lukesleepwalker BTW not sure if you’re aware: undo + play = midi panic
Thanks for that!
No, I don’t have Mozaic. Thanks for the tip! So far I thought Mozaic is for coder-musicians who want to make some niche automations or controllers for themselves
, so I never really looked into it.
Hmm, but maybe I was wrong if there are such useful scripts available for the public.
I have no code experience and Mozaic is one of my favorite and most used apps. With all the patches on Patchstorage at 207 now I think, it’s basically, 207 different midi fx apps, that can do so many glorious things with midi.