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Dual iPad set up
What would be the best way to use dual iPads for my setup? I have the choice to sell my old iPad 2018, or to keep it. Wondering if it would benefit me to keep it or not, as I can't work out how to use it with my main iPad. Do I wire it, use bluetooth, wifi, or some hardware interface?
For live as well as recording. I'm working towards offering ambient sound baths, live and in person (eventually).
I also have (and use for my music) a MacBook Pro. How might this all look together?
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Bluetooth midi between iPads works well.
If you've got a Mac involved, then iDAM should do ya pretty good. Plug both into the Mac and you'll have audio from the two devices to the Mac and midi to/from them.
What is iDam?
Plug them into the Mac with USB, yes? Or audio cable?
Inter Device Audio and MIDI - it's a built-in feature of MacOS. You plug in via USB.
Here's a good starting point: https://www.cultofmac.com/615742/how-to-record-digital-audio-from-your-iphone-to-your-mac-with-idam/
Thanks!
If you want bidirectional digital audio and MIDI over lightning-to-USB cables without having to keep a Mac/PC connected, you can get a used iConnectAudio4+ for around $160. However, you’ll want a Mac/PC to configure the device before connecting it to your iPads. This will also charge both iPads without requiring a CCK dongle. The first port provides 2.1 amps, and the second port provides 1 amp. You can also connect up to 8 USB MIDI devices and a single DIN MIDI pair and route them to either or both iPads.
One of the advantages of this setup over IDAM is that it provides bidirectional digital audio, whereas IDAM only sends audio from your iPad to your Mac. And, you don’t always need to use your Mac in this setup if you don’t want to.
Thank you. I guess I could budget that in later on.
As I test, I quickly set up GarageBand on my MacBook Pro and was able to select both my iPad and iPhone as inputs after enabling them in MacOs Audio Midi Setup.
However, I wasn't able o figure out how to get both of them running at once in Ableton Live Lite. I could only get one of them inputting audio at a time. Could be I just don't know what I'm doing though.
[edit: Figured it out. Both can be audio inputs to Live as well. This should work for any Mac audio app.]
Nice, thank you!
I use two iPads for my setup with separate
external interfaces for both iPads summed together
using an old school small format analog mixer.
I sync them together using midi clock start/stop and
Ableton Link dependant upon the apps I'm using.
It works very well.
My advice is to dedicate functions to each one.
For instance I use one as a sound module and sampler
and the other for effects, mixing and recording.
This setup can be as flexible as you so wish.
I don't use a desktop.
That sounds a sweet setup.
@andowrites
It is and it sounds wonderful.
Both audio interfaces have SPDIF so I can route the audio back and forth if needs be.
I like using the small format mixer because
it adds colour so I record the output from that.
Like I've said it's very flexible.
I would recommend it for iOS only aficionados.
What interfaces are you using? For live, and even recording, I'm interested very much in iOS only.
Everything is much easier if the Mac is involved. If not then it gets more complicated and expensive if you need to combine audio.
Midi between iOS devices without a Mac is easy enough unless you're super sensitive to latency.
Thanks.
I use a Zoom U-44 and a Komplete Audio 6.
For midi?? Simple connect standard midi cables between the two.
I also use two generic usb to midi cables for other stuff.
I use powered usb hubs for both as I also use
a Launchpad X for one ipad and a Launch Control XL for the other.
They both share my midi keyboard.
Works really well.
Thanks. I love the Komplete Audios (I had the KA1), and always tempted by the Zooms.
No problem.
I must add I have the KA6 mkii.
The thing with the Zoom is that it only has one set of
balanced outputs and to get the extra inputs you need the EXH-6.
Both are now close in price so I would go for the KA6 mkii
as it works straight out of the box though you do need
an external powered usb hub for it to work reliably.
The Zoom is a little more easy going in that regards
and can use power from the iPad via a CCK.
I haven't tested the KA6 mkii using a powerbank but
I have tested the Zoom U-44 and my iPad Pro using
a 10,000mah powerbank and a CCK and I've got about
two hours worth of usage out of it before the powerbank
ran out of juice.
What's a CCK?
"Camera Connection Kit". Basically the USB dongle for an ios device. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MD821AM/A/lightning-to-usb-camera-adapter
When these were first released, there intended purpose was hooking up a digital camera to your ios device. The name sorta stuck.
Two audio interfaces are the way to go. One for each iPad. Most have midi built as well, but bluetooth also works well.
And it was originally a "kit". It included two adapters for the old iPhone 30-pin docking connector. One was a USB adapter, the other was an SD card reader. I wish we could drop that "CCK" name, which must be 10 years dead now, and just call it a USB Adapter.