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@eross Yea I don’t see why not. I’ve never done it, but it sounds very doable. There is an easier way with an LFO, like Rozeta LFO or MidiLFO’s, or even better something with finer control, that sequences the CC like Stepbud or Octachron, which are the 2 ways I typically do CC’s. As I dig deeper into CC, I want to automate and sequence Parameters in all kinds of different ways, so I’m still learning too. I’m no expert, so maybe there’s some better advice out there.
MFX Convert Looks like it could help in a similar fashion too...
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/mfxconvert/id1451192046
Also For a slightly different approach you could use FAC Envolver. That will convert audio, at specific gate points, to midi or cc
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/fac-envolver/id1378195291
At the moment I’m looking at CC Pal, it’s not AU but looks really cool for recording and looping the automation. Anyone have and like the app CC Pal?
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cc-pal/id1468684956
There’s also Ribn for recording and looping parameter movements.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ribn/id1413777040
I know that it's nice not have to string together apps, and to have everything as much as possible in one app. But, there are other purpose-built apps for scale filtering. Some have custom scale ability too.
I'm just saying ... this is an incredibly option filled app already, and I wonder if it makes sense to try to make it do everything. There's a cascade effect to feature additions. Add scale support and people want custom scales, different types of quantize (filter, nearest, up, down, etc.), folding ... it can go on a long time. Multiply this by all the other feature requests, and it's never ending. The app gets more and more complex and therefore intimidating when (probably) the majority of users never need or understand some of these features.
I dunno what I'm saying here. Product suggestions are terrific and shouldn't be discouraged. But I hope the expectation doesn't become that Atom 2 will evolve forever to do everything.
I think I'd much rather string together a few purpose-built plugins that have all the bells and whistles for when I need them than see Atom 2 become bloated and lose its elegance, and it's developer burn himself out (again).
I agree.
I was prepping my midi randomization wish list for @blueveek ’s attention when I thought, hang on, Quantum and Riffer have amazing randomization already. Just pipe their midi out to Atom 2 and work from there.
That way the developer can focus on automation etc.
Of course when the developer implements feature request like drag and drop midi import in under a day ...
Do any Chorder apps do drag and drop just asking for a friend?
Everyone who is enjoying Atom2... do please leave a review in the appstore.
You wouldn’t believe what kind of uplift this gives to a dev who has slogged his guts out for a year for all our benefit.
@winconway: it would be great if you would add tips/tricks/shortcuts to the AB Forum Atom 2 wiki page rather than here: that way the info doesn't get lost into the ether -- since many people only see info on whatever is the most recent page of the thread. EDIT: I have added the selection shortcuts you just mentioned.
By adding it there, more people will benefit from the information. We can frequently point people to the wiki page for questions answered there.
The wiki page is at:
https://wiki.audiob.us/doku.php?id=atom_piano_roll_2
I have CCPal and Ribn
While CCPal is competent, Ribn is just easier to input your CC's into. You can make slower and broader gestures. CCPal is in comparison more "fiddly"
I hope Victor works on mutation as I think he could add something to the current offerings. You mentioned musicality, and even the most musical randomization still feels like a shot in the dark in many ways. To be clear, some are clearly more musical than others, but none are really as musical as I hope. With mutation, a musician knows how a given bass line or chord progression or melody would naturally mutate and those options could be configured in a pattern or a note in a convincing way. Atom2 is clever in ways that indicate Victor could nail it, though. The way scales work and how the "chaos" is set up in the velocity section--all the raw materials are already there; just needs some logic for how the musician dials in the mutations.
One thing that I observed with atom and now atom 2 is that the zooming doesn’t feel the same as other piano rolls. I might be going mad but I’m sure I’m used to piano rolls zooming either in the y axis for a ‘vertical’ pinch, and in the x axis for a ‘horizontal’ pinch. Is it just me?
I use Studiologic SL Mixface midi controller, an excellent controller, though I also use launchpad Pro.
Would it be possible for people to exchange their scripts when someone has created a working script of a controller?
Simply loving this app especially the probablity modes!
Hey @Toastedghost
We're thinking about how best to share community hardware scripts and themes once they start appearing.
We are hoping to have an Atom2 category on patchstorage.com soon, but there will probably also be other places you can share and download hardware scripts.
The possibilities are very exciting.
@Toastedghost Just discovered the probability and tempo modes. They show up in AUM under parameters throw a Rozeta LFO at them and instant mutation ! You can get Poly rhythms the lot playing around with it.
Congrats @Jumpercollins - you just discovered one of the many Atom2 power tips we are looking forward to sharing in our upcoming resources and videos.
Is it possible to switch between patterns in a clip via MIDI?
It's been requested by many, including me. High on my list of must-haves. This would be amazing.
I can see Victor's point about preserving the one pattern / one clip / one node approach, but I think from a workflow perspective this is one of those no-brainers. There's the ideal vision for the UX and how users actually work--you may have seen the images online of finely-crafted paths in a landscape and then the actual path that people have worn into the ground because it's the shortest path between two points.
Sorry @blueveek I May of broken Atom 2 but had some fun doing ,it was driving the probability and tempo using Rozeta LFO using just one instance and lost all the graphics inside Atom 2.
Probably just a glitch or a frame rate problem.
Sounds great! Lol!
Can you DM the project file to take a look?
It's a tricky balance to get right between modular purity and workflow pragmatism. I'm thinking hard about it, but it's growing on me. There's some cool state-machiney stuff you could do with that.
In the long-run, the ability to change patterns via MIDI would make for a nice workflow for cases where the matrix style (one clip per instance) is cumbersome. For a lot of my work, a one-instance per instrument setup where I switch between patterns in the same instance for song parts would be preferable. Not that it needs it today, but if it were happen in the future it would make ATOM into a flexible tool. One of my favorite sequencers of all time (StudioVision) was beautiful because it let you work in a lot of different ways.
@blueveek Just reloaded it in AUM and it appears to be ok now so think it was a glitch I tried DM u the AUM project file inside this forum but it’s saying project file not supported.
The screenshot was taken with the sequencer running.
Well, props to you for being open to it. Like I said, I can totally see where you are coming from on the modular approach--and most users don't think about the knock-on effects of making fundamental changes to the approach. Appreciate the thoughtful way you approach design.
Oh wow. I’m really surprised this isn’t part of the app. It seems like such a natural approach I just assumed it was there.
I really hope it gets considered. I know I’m never going to want to have that many instances of any app in my AUM setup. It wouldmake me go nuts. I would prefer to have just one atom per target app.
That might change if I’m using a Launchpad, but I’m not, and am still daunted by the idea of dozens and dozens of little round icons to organize and keep track of. I think I’d just stick with LK in that case TBH.
Sorry, I’m not complaining, and think Atom2 is wonderful. This realization just took me a bit off guard.