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Velocity keyboard problems and Major Idea

wingwizardwingwizard
edited March 2021 in General App Discussion

The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

Issues I. Having:

Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

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  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    Can you post a video of the problem you are having? I have both Velocity KB and iFretless Bass and opening Velocity KB has never caused iFretless to open. I wonder if something is wrong with your install.

    To have per-note pitchbend, you need to be running in MPE mode AND the receiving synth needs to handle per note pitch bend.

  • HyathaHyatha
    edited March 2021

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    I often use the touch radius cc in the MIDI cc controls section. you can change that option to polyphonic or channel after touch to make it sends cc to destination synth

  • wingwizardwingwizard

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    Can you post a video of the problem you are having? I have both Velocity KB and iFretless Bass and opening Velocity KB has never caused iFretless to open. I wonder if something is wrong with your install.

    To have per-note pitchbend, you need to be running in MPE mode AND the receiving synth needs to handle per note pitch bend.

    Hi. Sorry for the delay. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it solved the aum loading issue so thanks for that! And I have been trying for a while now to get the touch radius going. It sometimes works - to be honest I find velocity keyboard an amazing app but it so regularly glitches out in that functions just stop working, pitch bends suddenly stop and I have to reset.

    Could I ask if you or anyone could help me set it up withswam? I can get the touch radius to affect vibrato but not volume etc and I don’t know what I can be doin wrong, I just have so little faith when I change cc in velocit keyboard that it will have any effect because most of the time it just doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s my iPad Pro or something it’s so frustrating and finicky the app.

  • wingwizardwingwizard

    @Hyatha said:

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    I often use the touch radius cc in the MIDI cc controls section. you can change that option to polyphonic or channel after touch to make it sends cc to destination synth

    I may have misquoted above. Could I ask if you or anyone could help me set it up withswam? I can get the touch radius to affect vibrato but not volume etc and I don’t know what I can be doin wrong, I just have so little faith when I change cc in velocit keyboard that it will have any effect because most of the time it just doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s my iPad Pro or something it’s so frustrating and finicky the app.

  • espiegel123espiegel123

    @wingwizard said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    Can you post a video of the problem you are having? I have both Velocity KB and iFretless Bass and opening Velocity KB has never caused iFretless to open. I wonder if something is wrong with your install.

    To have per-note pitchbend, you need to be running in MPE mode AND the receiving synth needs to handle per note pitch bend.

    Hi. Sorry for the delay. I uninstalled and reinstalled and it solved the aum loading issue so thanks for that! And I have been trying for a while now to get the touch radius going. It sometimes works - to be honest I find velocity keyboard an amazing app but it so regularly glitches out in that functions just stop working, pitch bends suddenly stop and I have to reset.

    Could I ask if you or anyone could help me set it up withswam? I can get the touch radius to affect vibrato but not volume etc and I don’t know what I can be doin wrong, I just have so little faith when I change cc in velocit keyboard that it will have any effect because most of the time it just doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s my iPad Pro or something it’s so frustrating and finicky the app.

    Unfortunately, I don't have time. But, fwiw, Velocity Keyboard has been reliable for me with this sort of thing and most of the problems that I have run into are due to errors on my part. If you haven't done so, use a MIDI Monitor to see what Velocity keyboard is sending out. The touch radius stuff does not have a lot of granularity. When I have used it, I have needed to spend a fair amount of time fine tuning the settings to make sure the sensitivity and range were effective for the particular use-case -- i.e. tuning them to the thing that I was controlling.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @wingwizard said:
    The idea or suggestion is would it be possible to use finger touch size as compared with initial contact as a parameter for depth sensing, so we could have after touch or the depth parameter of MPE? That way we could use this app in the same way as pressing roli stuff and changing the strength of swam horns volume after initial press.

    Issues I. Having:

    Whenever I try to open velocity keyboard in aum it opens ifretless bass...........................

    Is there any way to make this control aum stuff? It doesn’t do anything when I select aum as destination. With stuff loaded in aum. To be honest I have this problem regularly with velocity keyboard I love it so much when it works but it commonly doesn’t play anything. Sometimes pitch bend stops working to and I have to reset which keyboard type is used. Anyone else?

    I have a suggestion to - is there anyway to make pith bend per note as it sounds fantastic but is ruined when it bends lower notes too - or is that related to the destination app?

    That’s something a developer could certainly add to their app. The relative size of the contact patch of a finger (or fingers) can be determined in the iOS framework. It just needs to be added by a conscientious programmer or team in an intelligent way.

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