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YES, that makes my night! KSSYnth is a new machine, but it looks like the visuals across the app may be updated!
If you like it flat.
Very nice! Has it been submitted?
I so much want to get into Caustic, Looptical, and Gadget but perhaps I am too old to appreciate what they bring to the table. I am more used to a linear setting regarding recording so this scene manipulation is quite hard to grasp.
The synths do sound really great in these apps so perhaps I can apply them via MIDI in a typical iPad DAW. Not long ago I updated my iPad 3 to iOS 7 so I can use IAA. Not tried IAA yet but I see it listed as an option in several apps.
A big thanks to the developers of these fine apps who grace these forum boards. It gives me great confidence of what may come next.
Looking goooooood.
I can resist no longer. Will there be a sale when the update comes out?
@Keebo - I hear you. What I like about Caustic is how ALL the different synths, organ, drums, bass, etc. are all controlled with the same type of piano roll interface. Not everything about it is perfect, but there's a LOT there, and it will be nice to have that more easily exportable into other apps.
Too much good to be true. Flat (aka iOS 7 version) not the best to me, but...
Thanks for posting.
here's a vote for flat. I love it!
http://imgur.com/C0RisOD.png
So, apparently 3.1 may offer skins (which means some of these are optional). I assume Morris knew this already, but I wasn't clear until I checked their forums. Pic above is another from the "flat" series. I think I really like it. Caustic has a retro/cartoony vibe to it to begin with, so what works for the Caustic world may not be what you would consider as "good" from a general app sense.
Update: Looks like they're getting close to release. I'm downloading the new 3.1 beta for Windows (that version if free, in case you were unaware).
Kinda hate flat myself
Yes, lots of cool new features in the next update which is very close to release.
I was gonna wait for the update to purchase, but I pulled the trigger in fear of a price increase with all these new features
With big competitor Korg Gadget, Caustic couldn't afford to raise the price. But if Causitc could be made more attractive like Gadget, Caustic sure could be easily worth $20 or more (if Gadget is not going to add a sampler in near future). I just can't believe how Rej crammed all those stuffs into a 30MB app. There is waveform free drawing panel in Caustic I just found out yesterday. Wow! It reminded me Absynth.
Price increase is possible - it's relatively new to the App Store (late 2013?), but has a longer history on PC and Android. But whether the price goes up, down, or stays the same, it's not something I regretting paying $9.99 for in the least. SO much content in there, and I find sometimes I just load it up and start creating. You can think of it as its own DAW, or just as a collection of great synths (and an organ, sampler, and drum machine!), which will very soon be able to be exported with ease.
I loaded up the 3.1 beta on my PC - it looked very nice. I think some of the skins (if they get it right) may sway some people on using the app. One of them had all the machines redesigned in black. I don't know if I'd prefer that, but it was a much different feel from what you usually get in Caustic.
The KSSynth sounded neat, but only had one or two dozen presets for it. One of the things I tend to forget when I use Caustic is that there's a machine called Bassline (which is like a TR-303, and I'm not a huge fan of that device), but there's also a lot of "bass" sounds available in other synths, like the SubSynth or PCMSynth.
But the most exciting changes, to me, are the iOS specific ones. Namely, the ability to use AudioBus, AudioCopy/Paste, Virtual MIDI, and Open in supporting SF2 (Soundfonts) and WAV files. It's pretty much the "everything you would ask for" in terms of key iOS music features, and this is in addition to an already-great self-contained ecosystem.
I think this and Jam Maestro are raising the bar in the self contained Eco-system categories!
The eye candy in gadget is sweet that's true but I found it to be quite a lot quicker to use than caustic. Saying that caustic is a more capable machine in terms of routing/vocoder/fx etc. I'm still not too convinced about the sound. I think gadget takes the biscuit there albeit it can't compare with standalone ios synths IMHO. I'm glad that caustic gets sexed up but I really hope there's some sonic upgrades too. By that I mean sound quality.
@supadom
I read your comment and it put me back to that question (Caustic v. Gadget) that's come up on other threads. This time I really wanted to think about audio quality (the GUI question not so much, as Caustic is apparently now shifting towards sexier, flatter, or all-black or? Not that GUI isn't important)
I opened both up and A and B'ed them, playing the tracks I'm working on in each.
Not very scientific, but surprising. They both sounded very tasty. This with iPad 4 and nice studio monitor cans.
I'm really wondering what people think about the audio quality. My unscientific assessment - that both are very tasty, is due to
1 that I like the mixdown I have going in Caustic - because I can mix in there, it has a lot of mixing capability compared to Gadget.
2 And I like the synths in both. A lot. Both are synthi lovers playgrounds, in slightly different ways.
3 And I like the mostly unmixed synths in Gadget because they have "oomph" out of the box that I think comes from Korgs long history of coding/sound design.
@Littlewoodg & @supadom - I've heard it said by people that they prefer the sound quality of Gadget over Caustic. It may be the case. I can't say personally b/c I never had the spare $40 sitting around for an app (or collection of apps/machines, really) that I may not be able to use. But I had the same concerns about buying Caustic, and that's where the price difference kind of becomes the point. It's not really clear to me that Caustic OR Gadget does anything that most of could do anyway with a standalone app and DAW. It's not like don't have too many synths, effects, and recording apps to begin with, or we wouldn't frequent a message board like this.
So, yeah, I could absolutely be talked into Gadget being superior, but whether it's 4 times better, or whether that subjective opinion really matters when you're looking for a particular sound, I'm not sure. I haven't done a ton with Caustic yet, but for more complex synth arrangements, I really appreciated the degree of control it gave me in putting everything together, tweaking it, and then balancing it out with a universal mixer.
Some things about Caustic do irritate me, namely when you're trying to write a single pattern and it tends to play back all the other tracks matching that "A-2, B-1" name (I think, anyway), when really you just want to hear what you programmed in the piano roll. But that could just be user error/inexperience.
Believe it or not the sound is not my biggest gripe. I've never finished a song in caustic and plenty in gadget. But, not to draw the attention to gadget since it is Caustic's thread. I found it hard to go beyond a few loops strung together because when I started building a proper length song the song mode sequencer would get very fiddly and user unfriendly. It definitely has got the potential to become great. There's loads of amazing stuff within the app but somehow I feel that it isn't made for such a small screen? I don't know. Having said all this, I know it has plenty of fans around here so whatever I say is my very personal impression and may be mostly due to the way I like to work which may not be true for others.
That's a good test of a tool's worthiness: if u choose it from the many in the box, and do some work.
It's easy for me to get into how cool a given application is, as itself, rather than whether I'm actually putting it to use.