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Phosphor 3... Impressions? Tips? Sound exploration recommendations?
Just bought Phosphor 3 from Audio Damage and unfortunately I don’t have a very good impression of the capabilities of this app so far.
Maybe my expectations were high due to other positive purchases from AD, but I just don’t feel like this synth has been developed to its full potential. It seems to have few built in effects, the UI is a bit difficult to create in an intuitive way because of hidden menus and it seems like every attempt to make new sounds results in a swarm of bees or ear-piercing metallic sounds.
Anyone have some pointers or positive words of encouragement?
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It sounds different than most iOS synths- - it is supposed to sound very digital/cold. For me, it gets into sitar-like territory pretty quickly, not a bad thing IMO. I actually like it for bassy stuff too - it cuts through a mix fairly well and so you may find that it’s good as a complementary flavor rather than as the centerpiece. Expanding the size of the AUV window gives a fuller view of the controls, if you haven’t done that. I have a couple of presets named “metallic bees”, so I know where you’re coming from...
“Metallic bees”... LOL.
I’ll see if I can figure out how to expand the window as you’ve described. Thanks.
Hmm... I guess I’m not sure what you’re referring to as the “AUV window”. Could you elaborate?
This synth is awesome and definitely my favorite “niche” synth. It’s not as versatile as your average synth but what it does is rule. The only tip I have is play with the controls for a bit (and be sure to a/b the space invaders mode on each oscillator separately and simultaneously)...it’s so simple that the only thing left is putting an LFO on something. And I think all it needs is the delay effect. If after a play it doesn’t tickle you or seem of use, then it’s probably just not for you. At least you’re only out 5 bucks.
Phosphor is an additive synth, so the programming techniques are different than most other synths (often subtractive, but there are other types). Here's an intro to additive synthesis:
Here's a 30 minute walkthrough for Phosphor:
Hope this helps!
Less is more with Phosphor 3 ... not at all as linear as the UI layout might suggest. Sudden unpredictable changes all over the place... just from a single tweak. Can very easily become a complex tangle of unusable noise. But still one of my favourite synths and sounds.
Requires gentle handling and patience ... but you can get wonderfully clear distinctive tones that really cut through a mix... can completely alter a complex sound with very minor adjustments... works very nicely with other synths if you don't let it dominate.
TBH I suspect that the very simple UI belies the complexity of what's going on in the engine room. I'd think the user experience would benefit from a much finer and more precise means of control ... along the lines of Addstation - additive synthesis really needs that level of surgical control and sculpting.
Worth spending a few hours just listening and making gradual changes to those little harmonic sliders , listening to how it enhances or distracts from everything else ... but to my ears, less is more.
I like messing with the voice bars or whatever they are called. It’s not some amazing game changer, but it has a very unique sound compared to most iOS synths, lot of high end, plastic sounding stuff. So decent presets, some preset randomness, modulation, MPE. A decent tool in the shed
Sorry for not being more specific. In AUM or some other host, if you stretch the right tab down, you have access to more of the controls.
Good tips. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it.
I have and very much like AddStation. One of my favorites. I think their UI may be better suited to this type of synth.
I won’t give up on it yet! Thanks, Pop.
My embarrasing attempt. First time using. Track at 12.00 onwards is kind of ok. I remember thinking I was a rocker on my keyboard at Sonar in Barcelona.
Distorted. Through eventides plus a master eventide. Clipping.
Sustain pedal to sustain a note. Oscilators mapped which sound bad tweaked live. Faders mapped so its like djing without cueing. You close fader then hope the additive structure per synth is good.
You either have to be good/know synth or just make presets.
Its just crap noise. Theres even a boo at 12.17
I am a fan of this synth. I haven't made many patches in it but I did some I really like. You can get some amazing sounds with an mpe controller mapping various modulations to the y axis
It’s a hard synth to use and even harder one to like, IMO. Regardless, a valiant effort and my respect for taking the time.
At the risk of appearing like a complete noob (and when it comes to AUM, I am a complete noob), how did you manage to view three versions of the waveform windows in one screen layout? I understand you had 3 versions cued up in AUM, but what must I tap on or summon in order to view a smaller version of the Phosphor 3 app onscreen? When I tap on it, it simply fills the entire iPad, obscuring all of the AUM app. Sorry for the basic questions.
If you double tap the top bar it might resize small again (sorry, not near my device) or you can also resize by dragging the bottom right corner. Have u seen my aum walkthrough vid? Should be a great help!
Thanks, I’ll give it a try and I’ll check out your video. Much appreciated.
Resize from bottom right corner but I map to a controller to launch app/apps. So that the close x. Of each app is behind another or off screen ( creating more screen space )
Will post on AUM thread. Always trying to resize, to still show master aum db ouput. Will ask if a sidebar output like audiobus sidebar can be implemented.
Might make a patch but it wont have the variation of 3 phosphors with faders.
Not needed but 3 synth combo. Either all phosphor or combo with effects to a controller makes a big synth.