Best way to add 1960's grit?

NeuM

@espiegel123 said:

@NeuM said:

@espiegel123 said:

@Sabicas said:
I'm trying to get closer to the elusive sound of 1960's Rome (for popular reference, "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly"). I'm picturing running an app on the master bus to add global dirt and age, but I'm open to suggestions if there's a better way.

With my monthly app budget reset, I'm looking at Fabfilter Saturn 2 and TB Reelbus. Either or both, not sure yet. There are some crossover qualities as both attempt to emulate tape to a degree.

Will those get me there? Are there other suggestions?

Check out the free but very high quality Chow Tape beta
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/44420/chowtape-public-beta

Hoping Chow Tape makes it to iOS...

It is on iOS in one beta. The link I posted has info in participating in the open beta.

Very cool. Thanks.

Sabicas

@espiegel123 said:

@Sabicas said:
I'm trying to get closer to the elusive sound of 1960's Rome (for popular reference, "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly"). I'm picturing running an app on the master bus to add global dirt and age, but I'm open to suggestions if there's a better way.

With my monthly app budget reset, I'm looking at Fabfilter Saturn 2 and TB Reelbus. Either or both, not sure yet. There are some crossover qualities as both attempt to emulate tape to a degree.

Will those get me there? Are there other suggestions?

Check out the free but very high quality Chow Tape beta
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/44420/chowtape-public-beta

Yeah, I gave this a test run last night and was able to get some nice subtle warmth and a little sizzle in the right places. Not sure I really got to sound recognizably "1960's", but I haven't tried every setting. I have nothing else to compare it to as this is my first tape emulation experience outside of the "saturation" button in Auria which doesn't seem to do anything audible (to me).

Sabicas

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Sabicas

Well, I tried several things. Some tracks have Chow Tape on them and others have Saturn 2. It did warm things up but I wouldn't say it got to "gritty". Turns out, whenever I turn it up and hear a bit of grit, I decide to back off again. I did figure out that using these tape emulations often means I don't need to a separate EQ or compression instance.

senhorlampada

the track is amazing. not sure if you got to your desired grit... but this sounds awesome

senhorlampada

Gotta take a listen again to 60s soundtracks
But if it was a band, the panning should be more hard left or hard right depending on the instrument.
That being said, I wouldn't mess with you balance, because I think it sounds amazing

Could even see the dust flying with the wind and feel the hot sun of the desert

richardyot

Yeah terrific track, great job. I love that uke bass! And I also liked the fact that the melodies were clear and distinct, despite all the overlapping instruments. The pedal steel was beautifully deployed, without being overpowering.

It probably was a tad too clean compared to a vintage recording, but that really doesn't matter IMO.

Sabicas

@senhorlampada said:
Gotta take a listen again to 60s soundtracks
But if it was a band, the panning should be more hard left or hard right depending on the instrument.
That being said, I wouldn't mess with you balance, because I think it sounds amazing

Could even see the dust flying with the wind and feel the hot sun of the desert

Thanks! The overall plan is to have the instruments in a visual location relative to their panning. I ended up double-tracking the cumbus (12-string Turkish banjo thing), baritone guitar and steel parts. Though there are 6 instruments, there are 15 tracks. Whenever the cumbus or baritone guitar is playing center/lead, I panned their two doubled-tracks extreme left and right. I tried spreading out the panning on other parts but it never really worked out. I also started a thread, a few days ago, about the problems that occur when listening to all that panning disappear in mono. I figure I'm learning something every time.

Sabicas

@richardyot said:
Yeah terrific track, great job. I love that uke bass! And I also liked the fact that the melodies were clear and distinct, despite all the overlapping instruments. The pedal steel was beautifully deployed, without being overpowering.

It probably was a tad too clean compared to a vintage recording, but that really doesn't matter IMO.

Thanks! I actually wrote the steel parts as a string section but I don't play any bowed strings (you participated in the related thread). The final result sounds more sci-fi like a synth or theremin. It's not how I imagined the piece sounding but I decided that it was kinda unique and let it be.

senhorlampada

@Sabicas said:

@richardyot said:
Yeah terrific track, great job. I love that uke bass! And I also liked the fact that the melodies were clear and distinct, despite all the overlapping instruments. The pedal steel was beautifully deployed, without being overpowering.

It probably was a tad too clean compared to a vintage recording, but that really doesn't matter IMO.

Thanks! I actually wrote the steel parts as a string section but I don't play any bowed strings (you participated in the related thread). The final result sounds more sci-fi like a synth or theremin. It's not how I imagined the piece sounding but I decided that it was kinda unique and let it be.

Have you tried playing the stringed instruments you have with a bow?
Thats's something I meant to do for some time, but the pandemic hit and I didn't buy a bow

I want to try it mainly with my mando

Sabicas

@senhorlampada said:

@Sabicas said:

@richardyot said:
Yeah terrific track, great job. I love that uke bass! And I also liked the fact that the melodies were clear and distinct, despite all the overlapping instruments. The pedal steel was beautifully deployed, without being overpowering.

It probably was a tad too clean compared to a vintage recording, but that really doesn't matter IMO.

Thanks! I actually wrote the steel parts as a string section but I don't play any bowed strings (you participated in the related thread). The final result sounds more sci-fi like a synth or theremin. It's not how I imagined the piece sounding but I decided that it was kinda unique and let it be.

Have you tried playing the stringed instruments you have with a bow?
Thats's something I meant to do for some time, but the pandemic hit and I didn't buy a bow

I want to try it mainly with my mando

I have not tried it. It seems like it would be limited to just one string on the treble side unless you created an arched bridge which would make it no longer playable in the standard way.

abf

I really enjoyed that track, thank you.

senhorlampada

@Sabicas said:
I have not tried it. It seems like it would be limited to just one string on the treble side unless you created an arched bridge which would make it no longer playable in the standard way.

Makes sense