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This thing is driving me nuts: magellan and the fx
Ok, so there's one absolutely brill sounding fx module within Magellan but....most of the time I use synth one as bass and the other one as a random ad-on whatever needed at a given moment. Now I like my bass clean like a nuns ass but the other synth would be great soaked in some sweet fx shit. Is there a way of doing it or will I always get frustrated with 2 synth machine that I can't use both at the same time unless completely dry?
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Those little toggles in the upper right corner next to the record button, no?
Maybe not.
But there are mod destinations for fx mix, will that get you there? Next to that is a slider to pick either or both synth, or whichever is in the foreground.
Maybe there's an easier way hidden in plain sight?
Those decide what preset fx setting will be applied to both synths AFAIK. I am trying to keep one synth dry and other wet. There is an fx mix knob above the x y pad but it applies to both synths.
Both PG and FX toggles up will allow you to set synth patch and fx for synth 1, both down will allow you to set synth patch and fx for synth 2. Turn off all the fx if you like. Bring up the second keyboard with the KB2 button and you will have both patches each with its own fx setting.
No, that is not correct @PaulB magellan has only one fx module and it can't be used by both synths simultaneously with separate settings. If what you are saying we're true that would mean there are 2 independent fx units which there aren't. I don't mind that so much if I could have fx on one synth but not the other. Where would you position the preferences fx source latch: newest preset, kb1 or fixed? I've tried what you've suggested but as soon as I turn off reverb in one synth it will automatically turn off in the other.
Yeah, you can decide to use the fx from one or the other preset, but it seems there is no way of controlling the fx send of each separately. I looked in the manual too.
The setting in preferences is only to decide whose fx to use when loading a new preset.
Well, I had a heavily effected string machine patch playing on synth 1 playing at the same time as a completely dry cello patch on synth 2. Still, if you know better...
@PaulB said:
Well, the developer says differently. Still if you know better...
"Thank you for contacting us regarding Magellan. It's currently not possible to shut off all the effects on one synth, but this is something we'll consider for a future update. Right now, the synth can only operate a single effects engine, because two would take up way too much CPU.
Cheers!
Jessie"
@PaulB said:
Maybe it's a bug? ;-)
Yep. You got me. I must have been fooled by the detune phasing on the string machine patch. I've tried some different patches with the same approach and it's now obvious that separate effects aren't happening. Sorry to provide misleading info.
Cheers @Zymos I'm glad that the developer knows about this so maybe if not a separate fx unit for each synth they may add fx level for each synth which may solve my issue. I find the effects on magellan very good so I expect the reason why they haven't included two of them may be that they didn't want to overload the CPU. If that's true then I have a lot of respect for the developers for making sure their machine works no matter what. This is in fact my experience, I don't remember ever crashing this synth.
Anyhow thanks guys for your input. At least it is clear what can and what can't be done. Kind of liberating in itself.
The FX Wet is learnable as a midi cc. If you don't need the different effects simultaneously, you can go that route.
FX wet is the master bus- both synths at the same time.
Still, it wouldn't take any extra CPU to have separate FX sends for each, but maybe there's a reason why that isn't as simple a change as it sounds to me.
I know, but it would to have another fx module. I don't know if the effects themselves are so good or are they well tuned to the synth but they do exactly what I have in mind when I engaged them and I can't say the same about some other ios synths. But yes, as you've said adding a fx send for each synth wouldn't hurt anyone.
I don't see why it would need to separate FX modules. Couldn't the signals just bypass the fx and go straight to the output?
The FX are pretty good- I even bought the Jr. version for my phone since there are limited options for FX on iPhone.
What I meant was that it would be nice to be able to use a different set of effects for each synth. Saying that they could do it so if you've used say phaser on one synth then would not be available for the other one etc. I.e. I hardly ever use reverb on bass but it would be more than welcome on a pad or a lead.
Interesting idea. A 'pool' of effects, with one instance of each that you could allocate to either synth and route as required needn't increase the CPU demand too much. In fact, if you had the choice of allocating them to synth 1, synth 2 or mixed output, you could have some unique to either synth and others, (eg. reverb), affect both outputs without having more than one instance of each effect running.