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I'm Looking for an iOS Amp Sim for Nylon String

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  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins
  • NeuMNeuM

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins

    Has Chet ever met John 5?

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music
    edited March 2022

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins

    Has Chet ever met John 5?

    I don't know. But I know that John 5 respects Atkins a lot. He was influence by Atkins. I really like John 5 and he is really creative. His album Songs for Sanity is a masterpiece, but I find him really sloppy sometimes.

  • wimwim

    Amazing playing aside, what do you think of his tone with the Godin? Works for him, but that's nowhere near the tone I'd be looking for from a nylon string.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins

    Has Chet ever met John 5?

    I don't know. But I know that John 5 respects Atkins a lot. He was influence by Atkins. I really like John 5 and he is really creative. His album Songs for Sanity is a masterpiece, but I find him really sloppy sometimes.

    What do you mean "sloppy"? From what I've heard he's the definition of a precision player.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins

    Has Chet ever met John 5?

    I don't know. But I know that John 5 respects Atkins a lot. He was influence by Atkins. I really like John 5 and he is really creative. His album Songs for Sanity is a masterpiece, but I find him really sloppy sometimes.

    What do you mean "sloppy"? From what I've heard he's the definition of a precision player.

    For definition of precision playing I'd go to Tosin Abasi or John Williams.

    Everyone was influenced by Chet even if they don't know it.

  • NeonSiliconNeonSilicon

    @wim said:
    Amazing playing aside, what do you think of his tone with the Godin? Works for him, but that's nowhere near the tone I'd be looking for from a nylon string.

    I don't like the tone from his guitar. But, I don't like the tone from my Godin either without a lot of EQ'ing and experimentation with the electronics and strings on the guitar. I don't like the sound of piezos. My Godin is pretty much a solid body nylon string because it has a heavy chunk of maple for the top. It takes a lot of work to get it to sound like I want. Even then it doesn't sound like a classical. It's my favorite guitar to play on because it plays great and I like the feel and response of nylon strings, but you have to find a sound you like out of them.

  • NeuMNeuM

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeuM said:

    @Montreal_Music said:

    @NeonSilicon said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    Eh, he's OK.

    Seriously: I hadn't heard him before, so I went searching. The part of this vid starting at about 1:00 is really cool. That is some really impressive playing.

    The great Chet Atkins was really impressed when he saw this man for the first time. They also played together.

    "Buster B. Jones is the best fingerpicker I've heard since Jerry Reed… He plays like he's double parked."

    • Chet Atkins

    Has Chet ever met John 5?

    I don't know. But I know that John 5 respects Atkins a lot. He was influence by Atkins. I really like John 5 and he is really creative. His album Songs for Sanity is a masterpiece, but I find him really sloppy sometimes.

    What do you mean "sloppy"? From what I've heard he's the definition of a precision player.

    For definition of precision playing I'd go to Tosin Abasi or John Williams.

    Everyone was influenced by Chet even if they don't know it.

    Ah, but who influenced Chet?

    His half-brother James, older by twelve years, was Chet's main musical inspiration. Jim Atkins was performing in Chicago and broadcasting via WLS on The National Barn Dance by 1935. In 1939 he teamed up with Les Paul, another idol of Chet's. The boy was also deeply influenced by the jazz style of Chicago guitarist George Barnes, the western swing of Sons of the Pioneers picker Karl Farr and the Kentucky fingerpicking stylist Merle Travis, all of whom he listened to on the radio.

    https://www.misterguitar.us/bios/chetbio1.html

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

    If I'm looking for an amp in a pedal, do you have recommandation? The Strymon looks like a good option, but a liitle bit pricey for my wallet.

  • wimwim
    edited February 2024

    @Montreal_Music said:
    If I'm looking for an amp in a pedal, do you have recommandation? The Strymon looks like a good option, but a liitle bit pricey for my wallet.

    I haven't tried either but ...

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/58509/new-boss-ir-2-pedal-guitar-amp-cab-ad-interface-that-works-with-ios

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/50422/joyo-american-sound-fender-amp-sim-pedal

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music
    edited February 2024

    @wim said:

    @Montreal_Music said:
    If I'm looking for an amp in a pedal, do you have recommandation? The Strymon looks like a good option, but a liitle bit pricey for my wallet.

    I haven't tried either but ...

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/58509/new-boss-ir-2-pedal-guitar-amp-cab-ad-interface-that-works-with-ios

    https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/50422/joyo-american-sound-fender-amp-sim-pedal

    Boss are overated and the Joyo is not full range for acoustic.

  • Montreal_MusicMontreal_Music

  • wingwizardwingwizard
    edited February 2024

    @rud said:
    @Montreal_Music do you have a mic of any kind? I have an nylon acoustic and have always found that using a pickup or preamp and plugging it in always loses the tone of the instrument. It sounds snappy and bassy but loses all of the midrange growl and character.
    I’d honestly say just mic it up. Spend your money on another app that will compliment the recording,
    This is just my opinion of course, but the best acoustic sounds will always come from a mic. Toneboosters Enhancer makes them sparkle... maybe a tiny touch of chorus... 👍

    My vote for this. I can’t listen to any acoustic nylon or steel with a pickup, just no tone or subtlety whatsoever. Fishman pickups in particular are bizarre for me and I always remove them. Doesn’t sound remotely human like an acoustic and sounds fr too weak to be an electric,

    The issue is that pickups for acoustics are trying to deal with some kind of balancing act, magnetic pickups just pick up string vibration, pretty much, whereas piezos I think transducers pick up body vibration and there’s internal sounds you can pick up too. But none of it gets the projection from the sound hole that the entire guitar is designed for. It feels like the pickup gathers a bunch of collateral sound that it then tries to bundle and squeeze into something more euphonic. A mixed acoustic sounds like its intended to and great in my opinion

    But, if you like the sound of an electrified nylon that’s another matter. :)

    If you want to try something different, just imo, I don’t see that you’re going to get anything nice from a nylon strung guitar run through different amps. Nylon goes particularly dead that way. They’re very beautiful and very particular, they’re pretty much by design incompatible with being amped, as all their sound is from the textural delicacy lost in doing so.

    I think experimenting with different guitars rather than amps would be what I wanted to do.

    Anyway all just my opinion. Good luck

  • wingwizardwingwizard
    edited February 2024

    @Montreal_Music said:
    This man also own a Godin Multiac nylon from where I live. He's a beast! He sadly past away a couple of years ago (struggle with alcohol unfortunately).

    I wish I knew about him long time ago. But it's never too late I guess.

    I found this intensely annoying 😂

    Really difficult to play but to what end… sounds like someone dropped a box of bouncy balls down an escalator

    I don’t expect anyone to agree btw

    I find this with a lot if not most of the guitar players that guitar people are into. Don’t even start me on Van halen Moore etc just flat out horrendous playing probably the least musical players I’ve ever heard. I get the style in the video doesn’t afford too much feeling in between notes that claw finger banjo type thing

    I like knopfler most of all. He improvises like a composition. And his touch is beautiful. All this other stuff is just hammering on the strings to me it completely lacks a few dimensions. I heard people talking a lot about the best players in his style and so went and listened to as many as I could and while they were fantastically technically gifted I found the same thing, just not as good, not the touch or feel or musicality.

    I don’t get it really, I like music and the expression of something not finger gymnastics. For me the real players get more out of one note than the others do a hundred. Intervals and timbral, textural things that can’t be annotated except as an after effect of their instance

    Again. Imo blah f—-ing blah

  • dokwok2dokwok2

    I’m quite pleased with the sound of my Taylor 314’s built-in pickup going into a free Taylor 414 IR that I got from Worship Guitar Tutorials. I don’t know how a nylon string would translate in that environment, but the space in a guitar body can be captured just like the space in a hall or speaker cabinet.

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