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Advice on in ear hearing aids for music lovers

Hey all. Couldn’t think of a better place to ask this question.
My good friend is not a musician but he is an advanced listener and an avid concert goer and general live music fan.
He has always had diminished hearing in one ear and for some reason recently lost it entirely.
He is very disappointed in the quality of sound with his current in ear device and wants to shop around for alternatives.
I told him that I would float it over here and see if anyone could help.
Anybody have experience with similar issues?
Thanks in advance for any responses.

Comments

  • Hello Ben - I have a great source for this topic but it’ll take a bit of time to get it to you (the friend in question is currently off grid until early next week).

    I will copy/ paste your post to him and I’m confident he’ll have something useful on this as he has been in a very similar predicament along with a deep trial and error history with hearing devices. I’ll get the info ASAP. x!

  • That’s awesome @Proppa. Anything is appreciated.

  • Interesting thread. I have been totaly deaf on my rigth ear since i was 8. I have had a so called crosslink. But i was never really happy about it.

    I have learned to live with it but it is super annoying not to “know” what the panning knob does.

  • @Lorichs said:
    Interesting thread. I have been totaly deaf on my rigth ear since i was 8. I have had a so called crosslink. But i was never really happy about it.

    I have learned to live with it but it is super annoying not to “know” what the panning knob does.

    He also has one in the good ear and says that he has no idea what it does. Crosslink sounds familiar.

  • The cross link is a microphone and a sender in the deaf ear that transmits to a receiver and a speaker in the good ear.

    I don’t think that music experiences got better for me but i didn’t have to worry about being on the right side of the people i’m talking to if we are in loud surroundings.
    Also it helps when i’m in a jam session playing fiddle.

  • @Proppa said:
    Hello Ben - I have a great source for this topic but it’ll take a bit of time to get it to you (the friend in question is currently off grid until early next week).

    I will copy/ paste your post to him and I’m confident he’ll have something useful on this as he has been in a very similar predicament along with a deep trial and error history with hearing devices. I’ll get the info ASAP. x!

    Would be interested in this too, please. If it's in a web-friendly format then could you put it on this thread?

  • Absolutely.

  • Be VERY careful. Hearing aids are NOT meant for concert-going. In fact, he should be wearing some good earplugs while listening while at a concert.

    This isn't a subject for an online forum as each person's hearing is different and their needs are different. He needs to consult his audiologist about this. While most hearing aids can be programmed by the audiologist to have a "music" mode that gives more full-range response than the normal "voice" mode, he can cause damage to whatever hearing he has left if it's too loud.

  • @ljholland said:
    Be VERY careful. Hearing aids are NOT meant for concert-going. In fact, he should be wearing some good earplugs while listening while at a concert.

    This isn't a subject for an online forum as each person's hearing is different and their needs are different. He needs to consult his audiologist about this. While most hearing aids can be programmed by the audiologist to have a "music" mode that gives more full-range response than the normal "voice" mode, he can cause damage to whatever hearing he has left if it's too loud.

    He’s intelligent enough to trust the specialist. Just looking for the experiences of others. No one is seeking medical advice here.

  • I wear Starkey HAs due to hearing loss caused by a congenital condition and somewhat also due to the normal loss attributed to getting older. I’ve also needed reconstructive surgery in my ear to help with the congenital problem. I play in a band as a lead guitarist.

    My experience is that when I wore my HAs while playing I hurt my ears because of the volume. HAs are not meant to be used that way. It was painful - seriously. My audiologist scolded me for being a moron.
    Instead, she said what I needed to do was wear high quality plugs like Etomotics to lower the volume to a level where I could listen without damage. (Not some cotton ball or the crappy rubber ones). She ended up being right. I was able to play better in the band that way. Good plugs attenuate in a way that sounds more natural.

    Depending on the situation, I also have some expensive Westone in ear monitors (IEMs) that can be fed from my rig. However something like that won’t help your friend.

    Bottom line, he needs to use good plugs and learn to adjust to a sound level that won’t cause more damage.

  • Thanks for that @ljholland. I’ll pass that along.
    Can’t imagine how frustrating that must be.
    Appreciate you sharing.

  • Apologies on this being late and I was hoping for more info but @Ben if you’d like thru PM I can connect you with my audiophile friend who’s been in the trenches with all things Hearing. His message:

    “Re the hearing I’m willing to talk to him direct - you can give him my contact info (phone or email). If all he wants is a brand - I like my widex pair, but have learned to live with the limitation of such a small amplifier (the utter lack of presence in low frequencies) ”

    I’d urge your friend to connect as my pal has done a Lot of research and trials in this field. x!

  • @Proppa said:
    Apologies on this being late and I was hoping for more info but @Ben if you’d like thru PM I can connect you with my audiophile friend who’s been in the trenches with all things Hearing. His message:

    “Re the hearing I’m willing to talk to him direct - you can give him my contact info (phone or email). If all he wants is a brand - I like my widex pair, but have learned to live with the limitation of such a small amplifier (the utter lack of presence in low frequencies) ”

    I’d urge your friend to connect as my pal has done a Lot of research and trials in this field. x!

    @Proppa. That would be great. Really appreciate you reaching out. I’m sure that anything he can share will help. PM me please.

  • Thanks friend. I’ll pass it on.

  • I know this is somewhat off-topic, but related. Elon Musk’s company, Neuralink is working on some very exciting brain implant projects which could hint at a future where an implant will be able to restore hearing for the deaf and sight for the blind. Just something to be aware of on the horizon.

  • @NeuM said:
    I know this is somewhat off-topic, but related. Elon Musk’s company, Neuralink is working on some very exciting brain implant projects which could hint at a future where an implant will be able to restore hearing for the deaf and sight for the blind. Just something to be aware of on the horizon.

    This amazes me and scares me to death at the same time. I just see it going like all other technology. Amazing benefits that the hearing impaired can hear, but after a while will end up just injecting Spotify and YouTube ads into my brain that I can’t skip without a monthly subscription.

  • @AlmostAnonymous said:

    @NeuM said:
    I know this is somewhat off-topic, but related. Elon Musk’s company, Neuralink is working on some very exciting brain implant projects which could hint at a future where an implant will be able to restore hearing for the deaf and sight for the blind. Just something to be aware of on the horizon.

    This amazes me and scares me to death at the same time. I just see it going like all other technology. Amazing benefits that the hearing impaired can hear, but after a while will end up just injecting Spotify and YouTube ads into my brain that I can’t skip without a monthly subscription.

    Haha. You may not be wrong!

  • Just saw this while reading the news and thought some of y'all might find it interesting
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/apr/23/musicians-hearing-loss-sound-of-metal?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

  • I have moderate, symmetric hearing loss in both ears, and have a prescription pair of Phonak hearing aids which are very uncomfortable, and I can’t control their profile (I think some newer models are iPhone controllable). Also they clog very easily from earwax, are very difficult to clean, and need their batteries exchanged. So I’ve use them less than I should really.

    Some time ago I bought a pair of AirPods Pro, and it has made a world of difference. I created a custom profile, and I can use them for hours on end with very little discomfort. They have both noise cancellation and passthrough, so I can use them while shopping etc. Also they have less latency than the Phonaks, and don’t feedback so often. So I’m happy.

    This is my experience, I thought it was worth sharing.

  • @Gavinski said:
    Just saw this while reading the news and thought some of y'all might find it interesting
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/apr/23/musicians-hearing-loss-sound-of-metal?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    The sound of Metal was an amazing movie.

  • @Gavinski. I’ve noticed this listed on Prime. I’ll have to take a look.
    Thanks.

  • @coniferprod. Thanks for sharing. I’ll pass this on to my friend.

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