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iPad Pro 2nd generation worth getting in 2021?
I’m just looking at this as I’m constantly running out of storage on my 9.7 pro 128gb and I can get a 12.9 512 for less than £400. It’ll give me extra screen space for graphics stuff, I’ll not need a new pencil and it’ll be marginally faster - maybe the extra ram will boost things as well?
Just wondering what people think of these slightly venerable machines now and any pitfalls/caveats that I should consider...
Cheers,
Chris
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If you’re talking about the 2018 iPad Pro, then yes. It’s still totally great. And the 2020 Pro is just the same machine, with different cameras.
I have the 2018 12.9 with 512GB. I never run up against any limits, but I don’t use tens of AUs together. FWIW I will almost certainly skip the 2021 model, unless there are some significant OS updates that require it. I also don’t want to spend another €350 on a replacement Magic Keyboard case—the old case doesn’t fit then new iPads!
I’ve got a feeling it might be the 2017 model, i think the third Gen came out in 2018, I’d like that but they’re still a lot more cash and not compatible with pencil v1...
The new ones are no more (or less) Mac compatible than the old ones with A12s.
You’re correct, and I’m going to remove that paragraph from my opening post as it might divert attention from the fundamental question, I should learn not to think aloud when writing posts 😁
Yeah you don’t want to encourage the pedants!
To get back to your original question I’d be happy with any of the A12 pros. I did think long and hard about it recently and ended up getting the Air4 as I didn’t have an Apple Pencil already and wanted the new one with its magnety goodness.
But I was close to getting an 11” pro but when I bought the air the A12 pro prices were still too high — the prices are much better now so that tips the balance back to the pros.
So yeah. You can’t go too far wrong with a 12.9 for less than £400. That’s a third of the price of a new one after all. I think that’s a great deal and you’ll get your money’s worth for sure.
I think they’re the a10x model, a step up from my a9x but not much... its more about the storage and the screen space I’m thinking, as well as the pencil V1 compatibility... thanks again
Oh ok — Only issue worth considering then would be battery life if it’s a used model. Might be worth factoring in the price of a replacement battery in the not too distant future.
My iPhone 11 battery life is already noticeably shorter and it’s only about 18 months old.
Yeah that’s definitely a danger with such an old device, though my 9.7 is still on its first battery and I’m not seeing 🤞 any major trouble there yet, I mainly use it plugged in anyway and try t to let it drain too much or often, same with my trusty old iPhone 7...
I think we are in a transition to where the necessary iOS changes (to catch up to newer models) will start to penalise older models disproportionately. I’m glad I got Air3 which will hopefully last for long enough, so I can wait out the current ’storm’ (which I actually expect to get worse before it gets better).
My approach is always to get latest I can afford for longevity, this time around (or soon enough) I expect significant differences in performance.
An older device makes sense on the other hand for ‘freezing’, preserving older apps.
It also makes sense to get an older device when you need the extra storage and screen size.
Storage upgrade options are very expensive. It cost me £150 extra for my air 4 to go from 64 to 256. Which hurts.
But I bought it for my work so at least I can claim the VAT back. (which is why It makes no sense for me to buy used products for work as there is usually no VAT on second hand goods)
I would seriously think hard about the value you're getting out of upgrading to a model which is already 4 years old. The price might be tempting, but in the long run it might start to feel under powered pretty quickly. I own an iPad Pro 9.7 and looking at upgrading soon and I've managed to wait it out for some time now, but I can really feel the apps and my workflow starting to stretch it. The 10.5" of the year release you're looking at has managed to keep up with things, but I really feel those processors are going to be feeling it pretty shortly especially seeing them put something like an M1 in the latest releases. Knowing how planned obsolescence is built into these things I think you're better off planning a little for your future usage.
That's just my humble opinion and I don't really know you or your circumstances.
I'm still happy with my 2017 pro 12.9 Despite wanting an upgrade for speed, which is always something you'll always want whatever your device. But it's enough to work with, I tend to use 2048 buffer in AUM which lets me use quite a lot of plugins and don't mind the extra latency.
Yes I want more power (I always do) but it's worth £400 for sure.
It’s definitely a complex choice to make, I’m thinking that I’m mostly happy speed wise with what I have, more is always nice but I make do, mainly by only lowering buffer sizes when I want to record from guitar or play in live, and disable tracks that I don’t need to hear while I do it...
I’m also in the market for a new serious machine for work this year so I’m holding out for a MacBook silicon with a respectable/usable screen size and thinking I’d be best saving the big bucks for that - I’m half and half with ableton on my PC right now anyway and with the Mac I’m hotly anticipating using an iPad with pencil as a second screen with drawing ability straight into blender and other animation /graphic software...
I love mine. Very low price for that model even now. Cosmetic condition? Reputable seller? Any way to check the battery once you get it?
I have a 2nd Gen Pro and the battery is holding up pretty well after almost 4 years of heavy daily use. It's also holding up pretty well with quite heavy AUM sets with many plugins, though I've learned how to use the CPU efficiently esp with the more CPU hungry plugins.
These are the things I was hoping to hear, is an eBay seller with 100% and I’m not adverse to getting a new battery if needed, couple of mates work at Apple stores so they can probably get a wee discount for me as well... thanks for chiming in 🙏
I made a lot of great music on my iPad Air version 1 which was before AUv3 came out running IOS 7.0
I could STILL probably make some fire music with it. I also own the 2020 iPad Pro
With that being said of course you can use it to create music.
Personally I'm looking at that M1 2021 like Mmm
I have the 1st gen 12.9" iPad Pro and kinda hitting DSP limits sometimes. Was thinking of a 4th gen 2020 now thinking the 3rd gen 2018 as it comes in much cheaper and from what people have said here.
I use a pencil thingy (albeit not an apple one) on the 1st gen but will it work still on the 3rd gen?
Do you think I will notice a difference going from 1st to 3rd gen? Want to use for AUM / Luma Fusion. Ta.
This is a useful page - scroll down to the table - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad_Pro
I ended up getting an air 3, not as much storage headroom as I’d prefer and perhaps a compromise on screen size (though that swings and roundabouts I think in terms of portability and ease of holding). It’s one of the last to support my pencil v1 and it has a headphone socket. Also seemed less likely to suffer from the screen issues that I’d heard about that the larger ones of the second Gen seem susceptible to (most of the secondhand ones I looked at had at least the bright spots at the edge, which people say are a precursor to the touchscreen not being as effective)
I’m pretty pleased so far, the air 3 is much much quicker, and the extra storage amount my old pro mk1 just makers me feel free to fill it with recorded stems and go a bit more wild creating projects in cubasis/Auria etc as I was constantly hitting my 128gb limit previously...
Edit: also has lightning port, so it works with the interfaces I already have (irig ica4+)
The 3rd gen doesn't have headphone socket so what do you need to connect and keep it powered?
I got an air 3 rather than a pro, as the pro 3 was a step too far for me because it needs pencil 2, and as you say, has no headphone socket (if this question was directed at me, sorry if not 😁)